- From: Mounir Lamouri <mounir@lamouri.fr>
- Date: Sat, 06 May 2017 02:04:04 -0700
- To: Mike Pennisi <mike@bocoup.com>, public-webappsec@w3.org
- Cc: Simon Stewart <simon.m.stewart@gmail.com>, david.burns@theautomatedtester.co.uk, Philip Jägenstedt <foolip@google.com>, James Graham <james@hoppipolla.co.uk>, Boaz Sender <boaz@bocoup.com>
That sounds like a good idea. For what it's worth, the Blink LayoutTests are using a `setPermission()` which is mostly used as part of a helper [1] for boring internal plumbing reasons. Eventually, `clear()` or `clearAll()` methods could be added but so far they have not been needed. [1] https://cs.chromium.org/chromium/src/third_party/WebKit/LayoutTests/http/tests/resources/permissions-helper.js -- Mounir On Wed, 3 May 2017, at 13:03, Mike Pennisi wrote: > Hello all, > > The Permissions specification operates on state that cannot be influenced > in > a way that is both standard and automated. This is largely by design. > Permission fundamentally originates from the user, so allowing arbitrary > code to control it doesn't make much sense. > > ...in production settings. There is an important use case for controlling > state programmatically: automated tests. > > The ability to write automated tests for the Permissions API would allow > shared test suites like Web Platform Tests [1] to promote consistency > among > browsers, and it would also allow application developers to more > thoroughly > test their own code. > > The Permissions API isn't the only web standard that would benefit from > dedicated testing support. All of the spec's "powerful features" are in a > similar position. In all cases, programmatic control is undesirable for > production settings but essential for conformance testing and application > testing. > > This is currently being discussed on the public-test-infra mailing list > [2], > specifically in the context of the developing Web Bluetooth API. In that > thread, we're considering two very different approaches: > > 1. Each standard defines a JavaScript API for testing with the > understanding > that it is only to be enabled under highly-controlled circumstances > 2. Each standard includes extensions to the WebDriver specification using > the mechanism it defines for this purpose [3] > > Members of the Chromium team have prototyped a straw man implementation > of > the first approach for the Web Bluetooth API. I'm personally interested > in > exploring the second approach. I think that the relatively small internal > state of the Permissions API make it a great candidate for > experimentation > along these lines. > > Before getting started on a patch, I wanted to gauge interest from those > involved with the specification. How do folks here feel about trying this > out? > > Mike Pennisi > > Bocoup > > [1] https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests > [2] > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-test-infra/2017AprJun/0018.html > [3] https://w3c.github.io/webdriver/webdriver-spec.html#extensions >
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