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Re: Proposal: Marking HTTP As Non-Secure

From: Michal Zalewski <lcamtuf@google.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 12:07:25 -0800
Message-ID: <CAN44M3XxGBYx=jTvmJG1QGoDdB1gFZ-WFZFJGjhGd1BMHeZNqg@mail.gmail.com>
To: Igor Bukanov <igor@mir2.org>
Cc: Chris Palmer <palmer@google.com>, Eduardo Robles Elvira <edulix@agoravoting.com>, "dev-security@lists.mozilla.org" <dev-security@lists.mozilla.org>, blink-dev <blink-dev@chromium.org>, "public-webappsec@w3.org" <public-webappsec@w3.org>, security-dev <security-dev@chromium.org>
> Then browser should show absolutely no indications of secure origin for
> encrypted http://. The idea is that encrypted http:// experience would be
> equivalent to the current http experience with no indications of security
> and no warnings. However, encrypted http:// with insecure elements will
> start to produce warnings in the same way a future browser will show
> warnings for plain http.

As mentioned in my previous response, this gets *really* hairy because
the "has insecure elements" part is not a static property that can be
determined up front; so, you end up with the problem of sudden and
unexpected downgrades and notifying the user only after the
confidentiality or integrity of the previously-stored data has been

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