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WebKit interest in ServiceWorkers (was Re: [manifest] Utility of bookmarking to home screen, was V1 ready for wider review)

From: Maciej Stachowiak <mjs@apple.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 03:00:50 -0800
Cc: Alex Russell <slightlyoff@google.com>, Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com>, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, WG Webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, Kenneth Rohde Christiansen <kenneth.r.christiansen@intel.com>, "Kostiainen, Anssi" <anssi.kostiainen@intel.com>, Nikhil Marathe <nmarathe@mozilla.com>
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To: Marcos Caceres <marcos@marcosc.com>

On Feb 16, 2014, at 2:16 AM, Marcos Caceres <marcos@marcosc.com> wrote:

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> On Sunday, February 16, 2014, Alex Russell <slightlyoff@google.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Marcos Caceres <w3c@marcosc.com> wrote:
> tl;dr: I strongly agree (and data below shows) that installable web apps without offline capabilities are essentially useless.
> 
> Things currently specified in the manifest are supposed to help make these apps less useless (as I said in the original email, they by no means give us "the dream" of installable web apps, just one little step closer) - even if we had SW tomorrow, we would still need orientation, display mode, start URL, etc.
> 
> So yes, SW and manifest will converge... questions for us to decide on is when? And if appcache can see us through this transitional period to having SW support in browsers? I believe we can initially standardize a limited set of functionality, while we continue to wait for SW to come into fruition which could take another year or two.
> 
> SW will becoming to chrome ASAP. We're actively implementing. Jonas or Nikhil can probably provide more Mozilla context.
> 
> I'm also interested in the WebKit and Microsoft context. I just don't know who to ask there. Have their been any public signals of their level of interest in SW? 

In general I think it's a good idea and I bet many other WebKit folks do too. We haven't yet had a chance to review thoroughly but I expect we'll like the general principles. I personally would like to see it become an official draft of the Working Group if it isn't already (the Publication Status page implies not, but perhaps I have missed something). If it is being actively implemented, it would be great to publish it as a Working Draft also, so we can get the IPR disclosures out of the way.

Regards,
Maciej


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