- From: Charles McCathieNevile <chaals@opera.com>
- Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 08:43:26 +0100
- To: "public-webapps WG" <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Cc: "Dave Singer" <singer@apple.com>
Further explanation from Apple...
------- Forwarded message -------
From: "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
To: "Arthur Barstow" <art.barstow@nokia.com>
Cc: "Maciej Stachowiak" <mjs@apple.com>, "Doug Schepers"
<schepers@w3.org>, "Philippe Le Hegaret" <plh@w3.org>, "Charles
McCathieNevile" <chaals@opera.com>, "Edward O'Connor" <eoconnor@apple.com>
Subject: Re: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 10:19:54 +0100
That's fine. Sorry, I am in Europe (between the said tracking meeting,
and the 3gpp meeting, so I only just saw the message. To save me digging
around and finding the lists, and/or finding that they don't accept emails
from non-members, could someone volunteer to forward to the list?
On Jan 27, 2012, at 13:39 , Arthur Barstow wrote:
> [ + Charles (other WG Chair) and PLH (I think Doug is traveling this
> week) ]
>
> This is good feedback that should be shared with the WG so I would
> appreciate it if you or someone else at Apple would please send your
> comments to at least the group's member list although the public list is
> my preference. Can this please be done today?
>
> -Art
>
> On 1/27/12 3:04 AM, ext David Singer wrote:
>> Hi Art
>>
>> following up to Ted's message, I think I have three concerns at this
>> time.
>>
>> 1. I think there is some temptation to have WebApps take on any new
>> API work, because of course web applications could indeed use almost
>> anything. But that risks losing the focus of the WebApps group as the
>> place where work that is uniquely needed, or most needed to "enable
>> improved client-side application development on the Web" [webapps
>> charter]. Speech is here a user-interface, input/output mechanism, not
>> really specific to that domain.
>>
>> 2. Historically, the user interface to the web was a virtual
>> keyboard/mouse, and quite wide variation in physical instantiation has
>> been possible (and used). There is a lot of temptation to make specific
>> provision of other input/output methods, but doing so brings two large
>> issues when the content then ties itself to those particular
>> input/output methods, that I don't think the W3C has really got to
>> grips with: what happens to content portability (is the method
>> available or usable on all platforms?), and what happens to
>> accessibility (are there alternative modalities available for those for
>> whom this method is inaccessible?). I raised this concern about other
>> UI method-specific APIs under consideration, and I think it's still
>> largely unexplored.
>>
>> 2. Speech is an area with IPR -- it's been an active research area for
>> decades; we may have some. Without doing a lot more work I don't know
>> the extent to which the proposed work would encounter IPR, but I think
>> it would be prudent to think about that. It may be best to have the
>> work done in a less general-purpose WG (though, as I say above, I don't
>> think WebApps should really be seen as general-purpose), and actively
>> seek to set a scope and a membership that minimize issues down the road.
>>
>> I'm sorry this has taken a while; for me, the do-not-track meeting
>> proved rather time-consuming.
>>
>> Best wishes, I hope this helps
>>
>>
>> On Jan 19, 2012, at 20:02 , Arthur Barstow wrote:
>>
>>> David, Maciej - what is Apple's position on this proposal?
>>>
>>> I would greatly appreciate it, if you would please reply on
>>> public-webapps by January 19 or if you need a couple of days
>>> extension, please let me know.
>>>
>>> -Thanks, Art
>>>
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: CfC: to add Speech API to Charter; deadline January 19
>>> Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 12:36:21 +0000
>>> Resent-From: <public-webapps@w3.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 07:31:06 -0500
>>> From: ext Arthur Barstow<art.barstow@nokia.com>
>>> To: public-webapps<public-webapps@w3.org>
>>> CC: <public-xg-htmlspeech@w3.org>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Glen Shires and some others at Google proposed [1] that WebApps add
>>> Speech API to WebApps' charter and they put forward the Speech
>>> Javascript API Specification [2] as as a starting point. Members of
>>> Mozilla and Nuance have voiced various levels of support for this
>>> proposal. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to add Speech API to
>>> WebApps' charter.
>>>
>>> Positive response to this CfC is preferred and encouraged and silence
>>> will be considered as agreeing with the proposal. The deadline for
>>> comments is January 19 and all comments should be sent to
>>> public-webapps
>>> at w3.org.
>>>
>>> -AB
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/1696.html
>>> [2]
>>> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/att-1696/speechapi.html
>>>
>>>
>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>>
David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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