- From: Kris Zyp <kris@sitepen.com>
- Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:40:54 -0700
- To: Keean Schupke <keean@fry-it.com>
- CC: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>, "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>, Webapps WG <public-webapps@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <4CD88A86.3000006@sitepen.com>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 If you are looking for ways to shoot yourself in the foot, why not just do: undefined = true; Storing undefined is not an important use case, practical usage is far more important than optimizing for edge cases just because you can think of them. Kris On 11/8/2010 4:33 PM, Keean Schupke wrote: > If more than one developer are working on a project, there is no > way I can know if the other developer has put 'undefined' objects > into the store (unless the specification enforces it). > > So every time I am checking if a key exists (maybe to delete the > key) I need to check if it _really_ exists, or else I can run into > problems. For example: > > In module A: put(undefined, key); > > In module B: if (get(key) !== undefined) { remove(key); } > > So the object store will fill up with "key = undefined" until we > run out of memory. > > > Cheers, Keean. > > > On 8 November 2010 23:24, Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc> wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Keean Schupke <keean@fry-it.com > <mailto:keean@fry-it.com>> wrote: >> Let me put it another way. Why do you want to allow putting > 'undefined' into >> the object store? All that does is make the API for get > ambiguous. What does >> it gain you? Why do you want to make 'get' ambiguous? > > It seems like a loose-loose situation to prevent it. Implementors > will have to add code to check for 'undefined' all the time, and > users of the API can't store 'undefined' if they would like to. > >> I think having an unambiguous API for 'get' is worth more than > being able to >> 'put' 'undefined' values into the object store. > > Can you describe the application that would be easier to write, > possible to write, faster to run or have cleaner code if we > forbade putting 'undefined' in an object store? > > / Jonas > > - -- Kris Zyp SitePen (503) 806-1841 http://sitepen.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkzYioUACgkQ9VpNnHc4zAxceQCeI7SF6MWWHDikmbtFECy4wKBd pWMAoKThBuiaXg0V1rM7nYh0abp6t7SU =2FSo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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