- From: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>
- Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 11:45:00 +0100
- To: Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>
- Cc: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, Addison Phillips <addison@amazon.com>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <s2mba4134971003270345z6d30beecu60de2fb97849cdbc@mail.gmail.com>
2010/3/27 Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com> > > > On Mar 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de> > wrote: > > The spec itself looks fine. It seems that the schema at > <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-schema/widgets.rnc> > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-schema/widgets.rnc > is not up to date yet. It still contains the *ITS* dir attribute, e.g. at > > elem.author = element author { > attr.xmllang?, > attr.itsdir?, > attribute href { xsd:anyURI }?, > attribute email { xsd:string { pattern=".+@.+" } }?, > text? > } > > I think you need to rename attr.itsdir to attr.dir , and change > attr.itsdir = attribute its:dir { "ltr" | "rtl" | "lro" | "rlo" } > to > attr.dir = attribute dir { "ltr" | "rtl" | "lro" | "rlo" } > > > Thanks Felix, I will update the schema. However, the BIDI spec warns, for > security reasons, to avoid the overrides so I didn't include them into our > spec. Should I put lro and rlo into the spec regardless? > You mean in the schema, right? No, you can leave them out - so attr.dir = attribute dir { "ltr" | "rtl" } is fine. Thanks, Felix > the spec now contains a note about this in the dir section: > > Note: > > Under the guidance of the [BIDI]<http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#bidi> specification, > the values that would allow directional overrides in this specifications, > namely Left-to-Right Override (LRO) and Right-to-Left Override (RLO), have > deliberately been left out of this specification because of security > concerns (see [UTR36] <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#refsUTR>). > Authors wanting to override the [BIDI]<http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#bidi> algorithm > can do so by using [XML] <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#xml> entities > and the appropriate Unicode directional markers. > > > > Best, > > Felix > > 2010/3/26 Richard Ishida < <ishida@w3.org>ishida@w3.org> > >> [Changing the subject to keep the review comment thread clean] >> >> Personally, I think we're ok with the changes. >> >> RI >> >> ============ >> Richard Ishida >> Internationalization Lead >> W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) >> >> <http://www.w3.org/International/>http://www.w3.org/International/ >> <http://rishida.net/>http://rishida.net/ >> >> >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Arthur Barstow [mailto: <art.barstow@nokia.com> >> art.barstow@nokia.com] >> > Sent: 19 March 2010 11:49 >> > To: Richard Ishida; Addison Phillips; Felix Sasaki; >> <public-i18n-core@w3.org>public-i18n-core@w3.org >> > Cc: public-webapps; Marcos Caceres >> > Subject: Re: [widgets] Span example >> > >> > Richard, Addison, Felix, All, >> > >> > Based on my conversations with Marcos and reading this thread, it is >> > my understanding that you support: >> > >> > a) the new <span> element and dir attribute model Marcos added to the >> > Widget P&C spec [P&C-ED] and consequently, >> > >> > b) the removal of the ITS references that were in the December CR >> > [P&C-CR]. >> > >> > Would you please confirm this or if my understanding is not correct, >> > please elaborate on any remaining issues? >> > >> > Also, if you have any feedback on the 60 related test cases Marcos >> > created, please reply to the thread he used to announce those test >> > cases: >> > >> > [widgets] dir and span tests >> > <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/ >> > 0845.html >> > >> > -Thanks, Art Barstow >> > >> > [P&C-ED] <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/> >> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ >> > [P&C-CR] <http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-widgets-20091201/> >> http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-widgets-20091201/ >> > >> > >> > On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:15 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: >> > >> > > Hi Richard, >> > > >> > > Added the example at: >> > > <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#span> >> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#span >> > > >> > > Please see also the examples for the dir attribute: >> > > <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#dir> >> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#dir >> > > >> > > Thanks again for all your time and help! >> > > >> > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Richard Ishida < <ishida@w3.org> >> ishida@w3.org> wrote: >> > >> [This is a continuation of one part of the <http://lists.w3.org/> >> http://lists.w3.org/ >> > >> Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0043.html thread.] >> > >> >> > >> It addresses the comment: >> > >> >> > >> [[ 7.16. The span Element <http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/> >> http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ >> > >> #the-span-element-and-its-attributes >> > >> [2] I think the example could be improved by having something >> > >> inside the span with punctuation (eg. exclamation mark) or such, >> > >> and maybe the description should be in English - otherwise you'd >> > >> probably want to put the dir on the widget tag and have English in >> > >> the span. Should I try to find another example ? >> > >> ]] at <http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0907-widgets-pc/> >> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0907-widgets-pc/ >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> Here's my proposed example (thanks to Aharon Lanin for helping >> > >> with the Hebrew). I made up something that might appear in a >> > >> Hebrew widget, rather than an English one, since it's a little >> > >> more realistic. >> > >> >> > >> <widget >> > >> xmlns=" <http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets>http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets" >> > >> xml:lang="he" dir="rtl"> >> > >> <name xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</name> >> > >> <description >> > >> יישומון ה-<span dir="rtl" xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</ >> > >> span> מאפשר לך לבדוק את מזג האוויר בכל >> > >> נקודת GPS ברחבי העולם. >> > >> </description> >> > >> </widget> >> > >> >> > >> Here's a version ready to drop into HTML (I suggest you copy it as >> > >> a unit, to avoid problems with the bidirectional text.) >> > >> >> > >> <widget >> > >> xmlns=" <http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets"> >> http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets" >> > >> xml:lang="he" dir="rtl"> >> > >> <name xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</name> >> > >> <description >> > >> יישומון ה-<span dir="rtl" >> > >> xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</span> מאפשר >> > >> לך לבדוק את מזג האוויר בכל נקודת GPS >> > >> ברחבי העולם. >> > >> </description> >> > >> </widget> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Marcos Caceres >> > > <http://datadriven.com.au>http://datadriven.com.au >> > > >> > >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - <http://www.avg.com>www.avg.com >> > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2755 - Release Date: 03/20/10 >> > 19:33:00 >> >> >> >
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