- From: Marcos Caceres <marcosc@opera.com>
- Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 10:49:32 +0100
- To: Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de>
- Cc: Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@nokia.com>, Addison Phillips <addison@amazon.com>, "public-i18n-core@w3.org" <public-i18n-core@w3.org>, public-webapps <public-webapps@w3.org>, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <4983A7A8-D7D8-472A-B06E-ECA386DFBBE8@opera.com>
On Mar 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, Felix Sasaki <felix.sasaki@fh-potsdam.de> wrote: > The spec itself looks fine. It seems that the schema at > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-schema/widgets.rnc > is not up to date yet. It still contains the *ITS* dir attribute, > e.g. at > > elem.author = element author { > attr.xmllang?, > attr.itsdir?, > attribute href { xsd:anyURI }?, > attribute email { xsd:string { pattern=".+@.+" } }?, > text? > } > > I think you need to rename attr.itsdir to attr.dir , and change > attr.itsdir = attribute its:dir { "ltr" | "rtl" | "lro" | "rlo" } > to > attr.dir = attribute dir { "ltr" | "rtl" | "lro" | "rlo" } > Thanks Felix, I will update the schema. However, the BIDI spec warns, for security reasons, to avoid the overrides so I didn't include them into our spec. Should I put lro and rlo into the spec regardless? the spec now contains a note about this in the dir section: Note: Under the guidance of the [BIDI] specification, the values that would allow directional overrides in this specifications, namely Left-to- Right Override (LRO) and Right-to-Left Override (RLO), have deliberately been left out of this specification because of security concerns (see [UTR36]). Authors wanting to override the [BIDI] algorithm can do so by using [XML] entities and the appropriate Unicode directional markers. > Best, > > Felix > > 2010/3/26 Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> > [Changing the subject to keep the review comment thread clean] > > Personally, I think we're ok with the changes. > > RI > > ============ > Richard Ishida > Internationalization Lead > W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) > > http://www.w3.org/International/ > http://rishida.net/ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arthur Barstow [mailto:art.barstow@nokia.com] > > Sent: 19 March 2010 11:49 > > To: Richard Ishida; Addison Phillips; Felix Sasaki; public-i18n-core@w3.org > > Cc: public-webapps; Marcos Caceres > > Subject: Re: [widgets] Span example > > > > Richard, Addison, Felix, All, > > > > Based on my conversations with Marcos and reading this thread, it is > > my understanding that you support: > > > > a) the new <span> element and dir attribute model Marcos added to > the > > Widget P&C spec [P&C-ED] and consequently, > > > > b) the removal of the ITS references that were in the December CR > > [P&C-CR]. > > > > Would you please confirm this or if my understanding is not correct, > > please elaborate on any remaining issues? > > > > Also, if you have any feedback on the 60 related test cases Marcos > > created, please reply to the thread he used to announce those test > > cases: > > > > [widgets] dir and span tests > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JanMar/ > > 0845.html > > > > -Thanks, Art Barstow > > > > [P&C-ED] http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ > > [P&C-CR] http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/CR-widgets-20091201/ > > > > > > On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:15 PM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote: > > > > > Hi Richard, > > > > > > Added the example at: > > > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#span > > > > > > Please see also the examples for the dir attribute: > > > http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/#dir > > > > > > Thanks again for all your time and help! > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org> > wrote: > > >> [This is a continuation of one part of the http://lists.w3.org/ > > >> Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JanMar/0043.html thread.] > > >> > > >> It addresses the comment: > > >> > > >> [[ 7.16. The span Element http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets/ > > >> #the-span-element-and-its-attributes > > >> [2] I think the example could be improved by having something > > >> inside the span with punctuation (eg. exclamation mark) or such, > > >> and maybe the description should be in English - otherwise you'd > > >> probably want to put the dir on the widget tag and have English > in > > >> the span. Should I try to find another example ? > > >> ]] at http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0907-widgets-pc/ > > >> > > >> > > >> Here's my proposed example (thanks to Aharon Lanin for helping > > >> with the Hebrew). I made up something that might appear in a > > >> Hebrew widget, rather than an English one, since it's a little > > >> more realistic. > > >> > > >> <widget > > >> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets" > > >> xml:lang="he" dir="rtl"> > > >> <name xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</name> > > >> <description > > >> יישומון ה-<span dir="rtl" xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</ > > >> span> מאפשר לך לבדוק את מזג האוויר בכל > > >> נקודת GPS ברחבי העולם. > > >> </description> > > >> </widget> > > >> > > >> Here's a version ready to drop into HTML (I suggest you copy it > as > > >> a unit, to avoid problems with the bidirectional text.) > > >> > > >> <widget > > >> xmlns="http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets" > > >> xml:lang="he" dir="rtl"> > > >> <name xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</name> > > >> <description > > >> יישומון ה-<span dir="rtl" > > >> xml:lang="en">GPS Weather!</span> מאפשר > > >> לך לבדוק את מזג האוויר בכל נקודת GPS > > >> ברחבי העולם. > > >> </description> > > >> </widget> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Marcos Caceres > > > http://datadriven.com.au > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2755 - Release Date: > 03/20/10 > > 19:33:00 > > >
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