RE: Seeking earlier feedback from MS [Was: IE Team's Proposal for Cross Site Requests]

I want to be clear here. I can see how my email can be misunderstood but I think the point I've been trying to make is that email discussions are not substitute for the F2F. In the next 2 weeks I'll certainly attempt to answer questions and comments when I can.

Ian, no doubt we are unique in the field of delays on features\projects at the W3C. I'm going to refain from engaging in a personal 'he said she said' two way on email however I will make an exception and take time to clarify (another one of) your combative comments\polemic that is just not constructive and takes away from more useful conversations we've had in the past.

As you yourself have said, minutes for telecons and F2F's are poor. I did not commit to mid to late November. I said in TPAC I wold try to give security feedback  6 weeks to 2 months after the event. In a number of events that followed I had a family emergency and was indisposed for awhile. The point has been made, I'm sorry and would like to bury the hatchet and move on...

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From: Ian Hickson [ian@hixie.ch]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:12 AM
To: Sunava Dutta; Michael(tm) Smith
Cc: Jonas Sicking; Arthur Barstow; Marc Silbey; public-webapps@w3.org; arun@mozilla.com; Eric Lawrence; Chris Wilson; David Ross; Mark Shlimovich (SWI); Doug Stamper; Zhenbin Xu
Subject: RE: Seeking earlier feedback from MS [Was: IE Team's Proposal for Cross Site Requests]

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Sunava Dutta wrote:
>
> [Sunava Dutta] We're kind of heads down in our development cycle with
> IE8 and the F2F is the first opportunity to discuss this at length.

I honestly am not sure it's worth Google's time for me to attend this
meeting if it's going to be hijacked to talk about input that everyone
specifically agreed would be discussed in advance of the meeting. We can't
make educated decisions in a face to face meeting if we haven't had the
time to discuss them before hand. This was clearly discussed and
established weeks ago.


On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Michael(tm) Smith wrote:
>
> You've yet to actually even deliver the comments to the group in
> a way that makes it possible for members of the group to even read
> them at all. You've missed the deadline you agreed to initially
> (June 6) and also have missed the adjusted date you committed to
> providing them (Tuesday or Wednesday this week at the latest).

For the record, the deadlines Sunava originally agreed to were mid to late
November 2007. That's over six months ago now.

   http://www.w3.org/2007/11/09-webapi-minutes.html

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