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Re: Command line / text application language

From: Loïc Martínez Normand <loic@fi.upm.es>
Date: Wed, 8 May 2013 11:43:34 +0200
Message-ID: <CAJpUyzn-BsGN1zs_8DFUXwEKRgyehKputv15inMrruQXyC3Zbw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com>
Cc: "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net>, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
It's a great work!

I just have two editorial suggestions dealing with the use of first person
in the two notes of the last section of the appendix ("Applying WCAG 2.0 to
text applications").

   - The first note has the sentence "We simply raise these examples here
   to illustrate how WCAG 2.0 success criteria can be applied to this older
   class of applications that pre-date the web.". If written in third person
   /passive it could be "These examples are simply raised here to
   - The second not has the sentence "It is only for the text application
   that we need to take this approach with these glossary terms.". It cold be
   changed into "It is only for the text application that there is a need to
   take this approach with these glossary terms.".

Best regards,

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com> wrote:

>  Hi gang, and also Jason & Loretta,
> With the assistance of Janina Sajka and Jason White (cc-ed), I have
> developed Proposal 8 for "command line interfaces", which can be found at
> https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/command-line-interfaces
> As per feedback from WCAG WG, this draft does the following:
>    - Speaks in the third person
>    - Has a much shorter section to appear within the main document (as a
>    proposed Chapter 4, appearing right after Closed Functionality)
>    - Has the bulk of the text appearing as an appendix (a new Appendix B)
>    - Has been thoroughly reviewed & vetted by two very experienced
>    command line / text application AT users, namely Janina Sajka and Jason
>    White
> I had the AI from WCAG WG to get this text vetted by a subteam first,
> whose members included Loretta.  However, in the interest of time - so as
> to not miss this weeks' WCAG2ICT meeting and sufficient survey time - I'm
> including Loretta at the same time as the TF for review rather than waiting
> to put this forward to the TF until after her feedback.  Loretta - please
> share any concerns you have now, so we can address them in our TF meeting
> this Friday, in hopes of bringing this to WCAG WG next week Tuesday.
> I would also like to formally invite our expert Jason White to this
> discussion, as he may be the best person available to answer any questions
> about how command line / text application screen readers work, since Jason
> "lives" in Linux/UNIX, and is a power user of BRLTTY and emacspeak (with
> Janina being more expert in the third Linux/UNIX screen reader user base,
> Speakup).
> In talking with Jason & Janina, I was particularly impressed by the power
> of these screen readers, both when they combined with other common
> command-line tools (e.g. 'cut' for trimming columns of fixed-width text for
> effective interactions with columnar/tabular data), and also thanks to the
> scripts built into emacspeak (which provide heading navigation to a variety
> of "structured" text documents such as 'man' pages and).
> Regards,
> Peter
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Loïc Martínez-Normand
DLSIIS. Facultad de Informática
Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
Campus de Montegancedo
28660 Boadilla del Monte
e-mail: loic@fi.upm.es
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