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Re: Command line / text application language

From: Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com>
Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 07:06:00 -0700
Message-ID: <518A5BC8.4090301@oracle.com>
To: Loïc Martínez Normand <loic@fi.upm.es>
CC: "public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org" <public-wcag2ict-tf@w3.org>, Jason White <jason@jasonjgw.net>, Loretta Guarino Reid <lorettaguarino@google.com>
Loïc,

Thank you; it seems I missed a couple of 1st person / 3rd person edits.  
Good catch; I'm fixing them now.


Peter


On 5/8/2013 2:43 AM, Loïc Martínez Normand wrote:
> It's a great work!
>
> I just have two editorial suggestions dealing with the use of first 
> person in the two notes of the last section of the appendix ("Applying 
> WCAG 2.0 to text applications").
>
>   * The first note has the sentence "We simply raise these examples
>     here to illustrate how WCAG 2.0 success criteria can be applied to
>     this older class of applications that pre-date the web.". If
>     written in third person /passive it could be "These examples are
>     simply raised here to illustrate...".
>   * The second not has the sentence "It is only for the text
>     application that we need to take this approach with these glossary
>     terms.". It cold be changed into "It is only for the text
>     application that there is a need to take this approach with these
>     glossary terms.".
>
> Best regards,
> Loïc
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:59 AM, Peter Korn <peter.korn@oracle.com 
> <mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi gang, and also Jason & Loretta,
>
>     With the assistance of Janina Sajka and Jason White (cc-ed), I
>     have developed Proposal 8 for "command line interfaces", which can
>     be found at
>     https://sites.google.com/site/wcag2ict/cross-cutting-issues-and-notes/command-line-interfaces
>
>     As per feedback from WCAG WG, this draft does the following:
>
>       * Speaks in the third person
>       * Has a much shorter section to appear within the main document
>         (as a proposed Chapter 4, appearing right after Closed
>         Functionality)
>       * Has the bulk of the text appearing as an appendix (a new
>         Appendix B)
>       * Has been thoroughly reviewed & vetted by two very experienced
>         command line / text application AT users, namely Janina Sajka
>         and Jason White
>
>     I had the AI from WCAG WG to get this text vetted by a subteam
>     first, whose members included Loretta.  However, in the interest
>     of time - so as to not miss this weeks' WCAG2ICT meeting and
>     sufficient survey time - I'm including Loretta at the same time as
>     the TF for review rather than waiting to put this forward to the
>     TF until after her feedback.  Loretta - please share any concerns
>     you have now, so we can address them in our TF meeting this
>     Friday, in hopes of bringing this to WCAG WG next week Tuesday.
>
>
>     I would also like to formally invite our expert Jason White to
>     this discussion, as he may be the best person available to answer
>     any questions about how command line / text application screen
>     readers work, since Jason "lives" in Linux/UNIX, and is a power
>     user of BRLTTY and emacspeak (with Janina being more expert in the
>     third Linux/UNIX screen reader user base, Speakup).
>
>     In talking with Jason & Janina, I was particularly impressed by
>     the power of these screen readers, both when they combined with
>     other common command-line tools (e.g. 'cut' for trimming columns
>     of fixed-width text for effective interactions with
>     columnar/tabular data), and also thanks to the scripts built into
>     emacspeak (which provide heading navigation to a variety of
>     "structured" text documents such as 'man' pages and).
>
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Peter
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>
> -- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
> Loïc Martínez-Normand
> DLSIIS. Facultad de Informática
> Universidad Politécnica de Madrid
> Campus de Montegancedo
> 28660 Boadilla del Monte
> Madrid
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