Re: Headings test

This would argue that the hierarchy requirement somehow belongs under GL
2.4, rather than 1.3.


On 2/10/06 7:20 AM, "Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG)" <rscano@iwa-italy.org> wrote:

> 
> Talking with blind people they said that for them is vital to have a correct
> heading structure for navigate a page.
> 
> ----- Messaggio originale -----
>     Da: "Loretta Guarino Reid"<lguarino@adobe.com>
>     Inviato: 10/02/06 16.04.51
>     A: "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG"<rscano@iwa-italy.org>, "'Yvette
> Hoitink'"<y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>,
> "public-wcag-teamb@w3.org"<public-wcag-teamb@w3.org>
>     Oggetto: Re: Headings test
>     
>     I'm not arguing that hierarchy isn't useful.  I don't sense agreement in
> the
>     group that it should be a level 1 requirement. And I think the argument
> that
>     Ben was putting forth, about navigation bars, was that the perceivable
>     structure is not always hierarchical.
>     
>     This could definitely be an advisory technique. Or, we could try to
> address
>     it under a different SC for understanding.
>     
>     
>     On 2/10/06 1:08 AM, "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
> wrote:
>     
>> 
>> And remember also that in W3C Markup Validator there is an option "Outline"
>> for check the heading structure.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org
>> [mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yvette Hoitink
>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:53 AM
>> To: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
>> Subject: RE: Headings test
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Loretta,
>> 
>> The worry I have is that people will get confused if a heading isn't a
>> logical subsection of a previous heading. For example: a page with three
>> subsections and one list of related articles about the whole topic is marked
>> up using H1 - h2 - h2 - h4 where the H4 is the heading for the 'related
>> articles' section. From the headings, it follows that they are related
>> articles to the last subsection although if we go with your suggestion it
>> could be either the entire page (if people ignore our advise about
>> hierarchy) or the last section.
>> 
>> I think headings are one of the most important elements to define the
>> structure of the document. If we let go of the hierarchy need, we are
>> letting a lot of people down. I even think the 1.3.1 SC requires hierarchy
>> because otherwise there is no structure but they're just a bunch of
>> headings. For example a sighted user will often spot (from the design) that
>> the 'related articles' list refers to the whole page and not just the last
>> subsection, a screenreader user should have the same benefits.
>> 
>> Yvette Hoitink
>> Heritas, Alphen aan den Rijn, the Netherlands
>> E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl
>> WWW: http://www.heritas.nl
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org
>>> [mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Loretta Guarino Reid
>>> Sent: vrijdag 10 februari 2006 2:52
>>> To: Yvette Hoitink; public-wcag-teamb@w3.org
>>> Subject: RE: Headings test
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If I understand you correctly, you are defining a hierarchy,
>>> just one in which we are looser with our definition of "next
>>> level". I actually think this will be more confusing for
>>> people than just requiring
>>> hierarchy.     
>     
>     
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