- From: Roberto Scano (IWA/HWG) <rscano@iwa-italy.org>
- Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:20:52 +0100
- To: <lguarino@adobe.com>, <y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, <public-wcag-teamb@w3.org>
Talking with blind people they said that for them is vital to have a correct heading structure for navigate a page. ----- Messaggio originale ----- Da: "Loretta Guarino Reid"<lguarino@adobe.com> Inviato: 10/02/06 16.04.51 A: "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG"<rscano@iwa-italy.org>, "'Yvette Hoitink'"<y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl>, "public-wcag-teamb@w3.org"<public-wcag-teamb@w3.org> Oggetto: Re: Headings test I'm not arguing that hierarchy isn't useful. I don't sense agreement in the group that it should be a level 1 requirement. And I think the argument that Ben was putting forth, about navigation bars, was that the perceivable structure is not always hierarchical. This could definitely be an advisory technique. Or, we could try to address it under a different SC for understanding. On 2/10/06 1:08 AM, "Roberto Scano - IWA/HWG" <rscano@iwa-italy.org> wrote: > > And remember also that in W3C Markup Validator there is an option "Outline" > for check the heading structure. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org > [mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Yvette Hoitink > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 9:53 AM > To: public-wcag-teamb@w3.org > Subject: RE: Headings test > > > > Hi Loretta, > > The worry I have is that people will get confused if a heading isn't a > logical subsection of a previous heading. For example: a page with three > subsections and one list of related articles about the whole topic is marked > up using H1 - h2 - h2 - h4 where the H4 is the heading for the 'related > articles' section. From the headings, it follows that they are related > articles to the last subsection although if we go with your suggestion it > could be either the entire page (if people ignore our advise about > hierarchy) or the last section. > > I think headings are one of the most important elements to define the > structure of the document. If we let go of the hierarchy need, we are > letting a lot of people down. I even think the 1.3.1 SC requires hierarchy > because otherwise there is no structure but they're just a bunch of > headings. For example a sighted user will often spot (from the design) that > the 'related articles' list refers to the whole page and not just the last > subsection, a screenreader user should have the same benefits. > > Yvette Hoitink > Heritas, Alphen aan den Rijn, the Netherlands > E-mail: y.p.hoitink@heritas.nl > WWW: http://www.heritas.nl > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org >> [mailto:public-wcag-teamb-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of >> Loretta Guarino Reid >> Sent: vrijdag 10 februari 2006 2:52 >> To: Yvette Hoitink; public-wcag-teamb@w3.org >> Subject: RE: Headings test >> >> >> If I understand you correctly, you are defining a hierarchy, >> just one in which we are looser with our definition of "next >> level". I actually think this will be more confusing for >> people than just requiring >> hierarchy. [Messaggio troncato. Toccare Modifica->Segna per il download per recuperare la restante parte.]
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