- From: WebKeyIT <v.conway@webkeyit.com>
- Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 08:06:37 +0800
- To: "'Peter Korn'" <peter.korn@oracle.com>, "'Shadi Abou-Zahra'" <shadi@w3.org>
- Cc: "'Velleman, Eric'" <evelleman@bartimeus.nl>, <public-wai-evaltf@w3.org>
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HI all I think we need to be really careful here. I agree with Peter that many organisations will be drawn to WCAG-EM hoping that it will allow them to make WCAG conformance claims. I'd rather not do away with the word completely, but describe what WCAG conformance actually means (every page, every point), and how WCAG-EM can assist with checking a sample of pages (for which theoretically conformance could be claimed for the sample, if every page of the sample met the level claimed), but that every page of whole site would need to be brought into line with that claim if someone wanted to claim full WCAG complilance. Regards, Vivienne Conway, B.IT (Hons), MACS CT, AALIA(CS) Director Web Key IT Pty Ltd PO BOX 681 Wanneroo, WA 6946 M 0415 383 673 F (08) 9325 6422 E v.conway@webkeyit.com <mailto:vivienne.conway@webkeyit.com> W www.webkeyit.com <http://www.webkeyit.com/> This communication, including any attachments, is intended solely for the named addressee. It is confidential and may be subject to legal professional privilege. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact me immediately by reply email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. This email is subject to copyright, no part of it should be reproduced, adapted or transmitted without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of Web Key IT Pty Ltd. From: Peter Korn [mailto:peter.korn@oracle.com] Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013 3:36 AM To: Shadi Abou-Zahra Cc: Velleman, Eric; public-wai-evaltf@w3.org Subject: Re: Change title of Conformance in the context of WCAG-EM Shadi, Whether or not we use the word "conformance" in the title/sub-title of this section, I do believe it is important to address the issue head on: that many will be looking for WCAG-EM to describe how to assess "WCAG conformance" of an entire website or web application. So I believe we cannot banish the word "conformance" from the document. Rather, I think we need to expressly observe what WCAG conformance is, and why WCAG-EM is not (and cannot) describe a mechanism for evaluating that for an entire website / web application. And as part of that, we would then describe what we ARE doing, give it a name (that doesn't include "conformance"), etc. Peter On 9/9/2013 7:41 AM, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote: Hi Eric, I'd prefer if we could avoid using the word conformance at all. We do not (for good reasons) define conformance with WCAG-EM. I don't have a specific wording suggestion but I can't help to wonder about the relationship between this section and the existing "Scope of this document" section. Maybe these sections can be combined, or this text can be included as a sub-section of the scope section? Best, Shadi On 9.9.2013 15:38, Velleman, Eric wrote: For discussion: In the current proposal, the title of the new section ("Conformance in the context of WCAG-EM") can be understood as redefining WCAG and that is not the intent. We could change to: - "Issues of conformance" or - "WCAG-EM conformance output" or - "Conformance in the context of Evaluation" or - "Your title here" :-) This discussion addresses: http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20130903#conformanceintr o -- <http://www.oracle.com> Peter Korn | Accessibility Principal Phone: +1 650 5069522 <tel:+1%20650%205069522> 500 Oracle Parkway | Redwood City, CA 94065 <http://www.oracle.com/commitment> Oracle is committed to developing practices and products that help protect the environment
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