Re: Change title of Conformance in the context of WCAG-EM

Shadi,

I think this issue is so important, it needs to be very visible.  I 
haven't though enough yet about whether making it a sub-section would 
have too significant an impact on visibility.  I'd really need to see 
draft text in context.


Peter

On 9/10/2013 1:49 PM, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
> No disagreement on these points. Also not arguing to banish the word 
> "conformance" from the entire document but to use it with care.
>
> Again, I think we are trying to describe the scope or limitations of 
> the document. How do you feel this text relates to the scope section?
>
> Best,
>   Shadi
>
>
> On 10.9.2013 21:36, Peter Korn wrote:
>> Shadi,
>>
>> Whether or not we use the word "conformance" in the title/sub-title 
>> of this
>> section, I do believe it is important to address the issue head on: 
>> that many
>> will be looking for WCAG-EM to describe how to assess "WCAG 
>> conformance" of an
>> entire website or web application. So I believe we cannot banish the 
>> word
>> "conformance" from the document.  Rather, I think we need to 
>> expressly observe
>> what WCAG conformance is, and why WCAG-EM is not (and cannot) describe a
>> mechanism for evaluating that for an entire website / web application.
>>
>> And as part of that, we would then describe what we ARE doing, give 
>> it a name
>> (that doesn't include "conformance"), etc.
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> On 9/9/2013 7:41 AM, Shadi Abou-Zahra wrote:
>>> Hi Eric,
>>>
>>> I'd prefer if we could avoid using the word conformance at all. We 
>>> do not (for
>>> good reasons) define conformance with WCAG-EM.
>>>
>>> I don't have a specific wording suggestion but I can't help to 
>>> wonder about
>>> the relationship between this section and the existing "Scope of this
>>> document" section. Maybe these sections can be combined, or this 
>>> text can be
>>> included as a sub-section of the scope section?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>   Shadi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9.9.2013 15:38, Velleman, Eric wrote:
>>>> For discussion: In the current proposal, the title of the new section
>>>> ("Conformance in the context of WCAG-EM") can be understood as 
>>>> redefining
>>>> WCAG and that is not the intent. We could change to:
>>>> - "Issues of conformance" or
>>>> - "WCAG-EM conformance output" or
>>>> - "Conformance in the context of Evaluation" or
>>>> - "Your title here" :-)
>>>>
>>>> This discussion addresses:
>>>> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ER/conformance/ED-methodology-20130903#conformanceintro 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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