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Re: AB size [Was: Re: Is strategic voting a problem? - was RE: Don't disclose election results]

From: Charles McCathie Nevile <chaals@yandex-team.ru>
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:07:44 +0200
To: "Yosuke Funahashi" <yosuke@funahashi.cc>, public-w3process@w3.org, "Arthur Barstow" <art.barstow@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.xg5gq6q4y3oazb@chaals.local>
On Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:29:41 +0200, Arthur Barstow <art.barstow@gmail.com>  

> On 6/6/14 11:42 AM, Yosuke Funahashi wrote:
>> On 6/7/14, 12:30 AM, Michael Champion (MS OPEN TECH) wrote:
>>> BUT  I still think the much worse problem is that we have qualified  
>>> and committed people who wish to contribute to the AB/TAG but aren't  
>>> elected because we are forced to select only 5 of them each year.    
>>> Nothing I've seen in these threads indicates that there are more than  
>>> 20-30 people in the consortium who know/care enough about what either  
>>> group does and have the employer support to spend time on it.  I'm  
>>> just not convinced that there would have been a downside to having all  
>>> 12 of the people who ran for the AB this year be seated, and letting  
>>> them self-select who stays depending on their actual contributions.   
>>> Take away the fun of the competition and the supposed prestige of  
>>> winning, we'll be left with the people who really want to spend their  
>>> time working to improve how W3C runs and what it says about the  
>>> architecture of the Web.
>> +1
>> This is one of the reasons why I wrote a message that we should make  
>> the AB open. Some people sounded comfortable with keeping the AB small  
>> or current size, which I don't understand at all.
> For the record, I also support increasing the size of the AB.

For the record I still don't support notably increasing its size.

> Of course I also [again] support making it self-selective.

I do not support this either. Having an elected, representative AB allows  
AC reps to trust the people who represent them. This is why I think it is  
very important to have the AB selected in a manner that represents the  
desires of the AC as best possible.

I do support moving as much as possible of what it does to the AC at  
large, or community groups, and making the AB's work as transparent as  
possible (this allows AC reps to check that the people they trust really  
*are* representing them).

> I would also support deleting the AB all together and having its `role`  
> usurped by AC reps (as well as some set of Webizens).

I do not support deleting the AB altogether.

I do think it is important that it is as transparent as possible,  
consistent with giving the team the ability to hold conversations in  
confidence on matters they think are sensitive and are not comfortable  
asking the AC at large.

I think it is also important that the AB make a significant commitment to  
be available, that AC reps at large do not and should not have to make.


Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
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