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Re: relating IndividualProduct to Product

From: <mfhepp@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 17:40:30 +0200
Cc: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Message-Id: <B10C491D-CC79-4B5E-9EC6-D2463C87E3AD@gmail.com>
To: jean-delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com>
Using the new Car type is fine, but it is ambigous about whether you describe a certain car, some identical cars, or a car model. If you want to make explit that you are talking of an actual car, use a multi-typed instance of schema:Car and schema:IndividualProduct.


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> On 12 Apr 2015, at 16:16, jean-delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I am still quite confuse. In my use case I have the dealer point of view describing used cars in adds. 
> My idea was to use schema:Car, and hope the extension you proposed at http://sdo-property-value-and-cars.appspot.com/Car could be so I would be able to give more information about the mileage, the engine... of this individual used car.
> I understand you propose to use IndividualProduct, but then how will I be able to use the very useful properties and class I find in http://sdo-property-value-and-cars.appspot.com/Car ?
> By the way, thanks for your great work on car ontologies...
> 
> Jean
> 
> Jean Delahousse
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> 2015-04-12 15:28 GMT+02:00 mfhepp@gmail.com <mfhepp@gmail.com>:
> An individual car (e.g. a used car on ebay is a schema:IndividualProduct. In an offer of new cars on a dealer page, these cars are typically a schema:SomeProducts. On the manufacturers' pages, a car model description is typically a schema:ProductModel.
> 
> If you do not know or cannot say which of these three types a product is, you can use schema:Product.
> 
> Martin
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> > On 12 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Jean delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> > Would you consider Vehicle to be an individualProduct? If you describe a used car would you use individualProduct or Vehicle ?
> > Jean
> >
> >
> > Jean Delahousse
> >
> > Independent Consultant
> > Semantic technologies, LinkedIn Open Data
> > delahousse.jean@gmail.com
> > mob +33 6 01 22 48 55
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> >
> > Le 10 avr. 2015 à 15:52, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> a écrit :
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Looking at
> >> * http://schema.org/Product
> >>  "Any offered product or service. For example: a pair of shoes; a
> >> concert ticket; the rental of a car; a haircut; or an episode of a TV
> >> show streamed online."
> >> * http://schema.org/IndividualProduct
> >>  "A single, identifiable product instance (e.g. a laptop with a
> >> particular serial number)."
> >>
> >> I struggle to understand how I can specify for IndividualProduct just
> >> URI of the relevant Product. For example
> >>
> >> {
> >>  "@id": "https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone",
> >>  "@type": "Product",
> >>  "name": "The Fairphone"
> >> }
> >>
> >> {
> >>  "@id": "https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572"
> >>  "@type": "IndividualProduct",
> >>  "name": "A Fairphone currently used by elf Pavlik",
> >>  "serialNumber": "2092043924022"
> >> }
> >>
> >> I understand that I could *duplicate* all the values of properties from
> >> * https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone
> >> on
> >> * https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572
> >> But I would prefer to just reference it by URI and if needed embed
> >> information about Product resource in document describing
> >> IndividualProduct resource. And the generic data about Product would
> >> keep https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone as its subject.
> >>
> >> Thank you for help with understanding how to do that, or pointing out
> >> flaws in my approach.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> 
> 
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