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Re: relating IndividualProduct to Product

From: Jean delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:17:08 +0200
Cc: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>, W3C Web Schemas Task Force <public-vocabs@w3.org>
Message-Id: <B84061C6-C84E-435A-B6EC-916EF20489C8@gmail.com>
To: "mfhepp@gmail.com" <mfhepp@gmail.com>
Perfect I will do that !
Jean 


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> Le 12 avr. 2015 à 17:40, "mfhepp@gmail.com" <mfhepp@gmail.com> a écrit :
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> Using the new Car type is fine, but it is ambigous about whether you describe a certain car, some identical cars, or a car model. If you want to make explit that you are talking of an actual car, use a multi-typed instance of schema:Car and schema:IndividualProduct.
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>> On 12 Apr 2015, at 16:16, jean-delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Hello,
>> I am still quite confuse. In my use case I have the dealer point of view describing used cars in adds. 
>> My idea was to use schema:Car, and hope the extension you proposed at http://sdo-property-value-and-cars.appspot.com/Car could be so I would be able to give more information about the mileage, the engine... of this individual used car.
>> I understand you propose to use IndividualProduct, but then how will I be able to use the very useful properties and class I find in http://sdo-property-value-and-cars.appspot.com/Car ?
>> By the way, thanks for your great work on car ontologies...
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>> Jean
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>> 2015-04-12 15:28 GMT+02:00 mfhepp@gmail.com <mfhepp@gmail.com>:
>> An individual car (e.g. a used car on ebay is a schema:IndividualProduct. In an offer of new cars on a dealer page, these cars are typically a schema:SomeProducts. On the manufacturers' pages, a car model description is typically a schema:ProductModel.
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>> If you do not know or cannot say which of these three types a product is, you can use schema:Product.
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>> Martin
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>>> On 12 Apr 2015, at 14:59, Jean delahousse <delahousse.jean@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Hello
>>> Would you consider Vehicle to be an individualProduct? If you describe a used car would you use individualProduct or Vehicle ?
>>> Jean
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>>> Jean Delahousse
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>>> Independent Consultant
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>>>> Le 10 avr. 2015 à 15:52, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org> a écrit :
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>>>> Hello,
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>>>> Looking at
>>>> * http://schema.org/Product
>>>> "Any offered product or service. For example: a pair of shoes; a
>>>> concert ticket; the rental of a car; a haircut; or an episode of a TV
>>>> show streamed online."
>>>> * http://schema.org/IndividualProduct
>>>> "A single, identifiable product instance (e.g. a laptop with a
>>>> particular serial number)."
>>>> 
>>>> I struggle to understand how I can specify for IndividualProduct just
>>>> URI of the relevant Product. For example
>>>> 
>>>> {
>>>> "@id": "https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone",
>>>> "@type": "Product",
>>>> "name": "The Fairphone"
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> {
>>>> "@id": "https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572"
>>>> "@type": "IndividualProduct",
>>>> "name": "A Fairphone currently used by elf Pavlik",
>>>> "serialNumber": "2092043924022"
>>>> }
>>>> 
>>>> I understand that I could *duplicate* all the values of properties from
>>>> * https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone
>>>> on
>>>> * https://graph.wwelves.org/704e3a57-c09e-4846-b27a-d31854096572
>>>> But I would prefer to just reference it by URI and if needed embed
>>>> information about Product resource in document describing
>>>> IndividualProduct resource. And the generic data about Product would
>>>> keep https://www.fairphone.com/fairphone as its subject.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you for help with understanding how to do that, or pointing out
>>>> flaws in my approach.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers!
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