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Re: Proposal: Slideset

From: Barry Norton <barry.norton@ontotext.com>
Date: Wed, 08 May 2013 23:08:26 +0100
Message-ID: <518ACCDA.90500@ontotext.com>
To: public-vocabs@w3.org

Sorry, Karen, I think I wasn't clear.

I am asking about representing the slides themselves, but partly because 
I want to use them to link to events (with recordings very like TED 
ones... in spirit, I can't speak for quality ;) )

What I meant about FRBR is that it's a vocabulary often used to 
represent how a creative work derives from a creative work derives from 
a creative work. I've in mind that next week's webinar presentation will 
have an updated (but derived) slideset from the one next week, and this 
may lead to a third derivative for a couple of conferences in the coming 


On 08/05/13 23:03, Karen Coyle wrote:
> On 5/8/13 2:33 PM, Barry Norton wrote:
>> Thought about ImageGallery and some others.
>> In this case I'm less interested in the 'containership' than in the
>> (distinctive?) property of having being delivered in certain real life
>> (physical, like meetups and conferences) and virtual events (like our
>> webinar next week), and these being captured in media objects (in our
>> case Vimeo recordings).
> Barry,
> This makes it sound to me like it is more event-based than it is 
> format-based. Are you including recorded conference proceedings and 
> TED talks, that have a mix of slides and recording of the live event? 
> I originally thought you were focused on the slides themselves. Now 
> your proposal seems to be recorded "performances" - basically, today's 
> version of conference proceedings.
>> I don't think this is just an academic niche, but also common in
>> business. It does raise the spector of wanting FRBR-like chains of
>> derivatives though...
> I'm almost afraid to ask what you mean by "FRBR...", but... could you 
> explain?
> Thanks,
> kc
>> Cheers,
>> Barry
>> On 08/05/13 21:36, Dan Brickley wrote:
>>> On 8 May 2013 16:37, Barry Norton <barry.norton@ontotext.com> wrote:
>>>> I'd like to propose a new subclass of CreativeWork for slidesets.
>>>> As background, I'm currently encoding Slideshare views, as part of the
>>>> EUCLID Project (euclid-project.eu) public monitoring application.
>>>> I've seen that one can attach interactionCount to CreativeWork -
>>>> although
>>>> it's a shame that this is direct, not an event in itself (and I don't
>>>> have
>>>> the data to track each view), I was thinking of encoding each poll of
>>>> the
>>>> Slideshare API in its own named graph and using the latest such to
>>>> surface a
>>>> 'current count' through RDFa.
>>>> Comments?
>>> Seems useful to me. Well there's two parts; indicating that something
>>> is a kind of container for a set of slides, and then the more social
>>> Web analytics piece for talking about view counts. I don't view our
>>> UserInteraction vocabulary as something we should be building on right
>>> now, but gathering requirements for improving it is certainly useful.
>>> As for saying "this is a slideshow page", the closest we have to date
>>> is http://schema.org/ImageGallery ... is this similar?
>>> Dan
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