{agenda} TTWG Meeting 2018-11-15

This meeting is scheduled for up to 120 minutes.
Please be ready for a prompt start at 15:03am UTC time.

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Thursdays 15:03am-17:00pm UTC

Joining details:

see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html

(members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me)

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Agenda+ Assign Roles

Chairs: Nigel Megitt

Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers!

Regrets:

Activity since last meeting:
See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products

Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/

We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues.
Please do not add or modify issues in tracker!

TTWG: https://github.com/w3c/ttwg/pulse

TTWG Requirements: https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/pulse

IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse

TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse

TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse

TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse

TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse

WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse


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Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead

Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
1. Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead
2. Joint f2f meeting with EBU Timed Text, Feb 1 2019
3. TTML Profile Registry Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
4. TTWG Future requirements
5. TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
6. TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
7. IMSC  Actions, Pull Requests and Issues
8. CSS Actions Review
9. WebVTT (David Singer to Chair if present)
10. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!


Reminder re future milestones and meetings:

November meetings:

Thursday 22nd November: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 29th November: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)

IMSC 1.1 and TTML publication events: see https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/specs-timeline.html


Further ahead:

Thursday 6th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 13th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 20th December: TTWG meeting ? Hour(s)
Thursday 27th December: No meeting
Thursday 3rd January: No meeting?


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Agenda+ Joint f2f meeting with EBU Timed Text, Jan 2019

State of planning, topics for agenda.

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Agenda+ TTML Profile Registry


Links

TTML Profile Registry editor's draft: https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/

TTML Profile Registry repository: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry


Recent Activity

No pull requests opened or merged, or issues opened or closed, over the past week.


Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)

Pull requests open for longer than that:

Proposed #47 Add reference to IMSC 1.0.1<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/47>
Proposed #48 Fix the media type in the abstract<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/48>
Proposed #50 Fix #42 and #43<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/50>
Proposed #54 Reorder tables alphabetically (#51).<https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/54>


No issues created over the past week.

No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.

Links

TTML Profile Registry issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/labels/agenda :

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Agenda+ TTWG Future Requirements

Links

TTWG Requirements repo: https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs


Recent Activity
 5 Issues created by 2 people
Opened #5 Create TTWG Charter 2019<https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/issues/5>
Opened #4 Audio Description profile of TTML2<https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/issues/4>
Opened #3 Support live contribution of TTML<https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/issues/3>
Opened #2 Add generic CSS property functionality<https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/issues/2>
Opened #1 Resolve open issues in ttml2 repository.<https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/issues/1>


Pull requests for review (to discuss if requested)

No pull requests currently open.

No issues or pull requests currently marked for the agenda.

Links

TTWG Requirements issues labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/tt-reqs/labels/agenda


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Agenda+ TTML1 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues

Actions

No actions due in tracker.

Next steps: publish Rec version.

Recent Activity

 1 Release published by 1 person
Published REC-ttml1-20181108 TTML1 3ED Recommendation<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/releases/tag/REC-ttml1-20181108>


 1 Pull request merged by 1 person
Merged #372 TTML1 3ED Recommendation<https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pull/372>

No issues opened or closed. No pull requests open for longer than a week.


New (and old) Issues to Discuss

No issues opened over the last week, no issues marked for the agenda.

(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)


Links

TTML1 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/agenda

TTML1 issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/labels/blocked

Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues

TTML1 Tests repo: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1-tests



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Agenda+ TTML2 Actions, Pull Requests and Issues

Actions

No actions recorded on tracker.

Next steps: publish Rec version.

Recent Activity

 1 Release published by 1 person
Published ttml2-REC-20181108 1ED-REC<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/releases/tag/ttml2-REC-20181108>

No pull requests open for longer than a week. No issues opened or closed this week.


New (and old) Issues and Pull Requests to discuss:


(Plus unresolved issues with ongoing conversations, to be confirmed.)
TTML2 issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/labels/agenda


There are no issues currently labelled for the Agenda.

Links

Current ED available at https://w3c.github.io/ttml2/


Current open issues:  https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues

See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx

Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md



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Agenda+ IMSC Actions, Pull Requests and Issues

Actions

None in tracker.

Recent Activity

 1 Release published by 1 person
Published REC-ttml-imsc1.1-20181108 IMSC 1.1 Recommendation<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/releases/tag/REC-ttml-imsc1.1-20181108>

 1 Pull request merged by 1 person
Merged #466 IMSC 1.1 Recommendation<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/466>

No pull requests opened for longer than a week.

No issues opened or closed in the last week.

New (and old) Issues to Discuss

No issues or pull requests currently labelled as agenda.

Links

IMSC issues and pull requests labelled for the agenda: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/agenda :
IMSC issues blocked: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/labels/blocked


IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.

IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests


Unicode CLDR discussion
Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915

Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9

Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html


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Agenda+ CSS actions review

Response to Elika's email of 4th October at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2018Oct/0011.html


Do the updates to CSS Text address the requirements we put forward for presentation of subtitles and captions?


For reference, we have the following CSS issues open:

[css-sizing][css-align][css-text] Aligning an aligned block of text within its container <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1975> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML>css-align-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-align-4> css-sizing-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-sizing-4> css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4>
[css-inline] Allow background of an inline area to extend to before-and after-edges of the line area <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1974> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>
[css-inline][css-text-4] Allow padding to be applied at line start and end <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1973> TTML<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3ATTML> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-inline-3>css-text-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+ttml+label%3Acss-text-4>
#2983 Support for shearing of lines and inline elements<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2983>

Additionally the following CSS issues may be of interest:

[css-fonts-4] oblique angle for synthesis in vertical text <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/2869>  css-fonts-4<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+label%3Acss-fonts-4>
[css-inline] Define the content area of inline boxes <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/814> css-inline-3<https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Acss-inline-3>

Are CSS issues filed for all style attributes for which we believe CSS work is needed?

See also https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Nov/0109.html


CSS WG review

Minutes from TTWG and CSS WG joint meeting at TPAC: https://www.w3.org/2017/11/09-tt-minutes.html#item35

Minutes from CSS WG Paris F2F that Nigel attended remotely on Friday 4th August: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2017Sep/0000.html

This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements


TAG design review issue: https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/138


CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>

CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback?



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Agenda+ WebVTT

Actions

None in tracker

Links

WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review


Activity

No pull requests proposed or closed this period.

5 pull requests open for longer than a week:

Proposed #439 Fix some links from the linkchecker and the broken process document link<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/439>
Proposed #430 Fontsize changes<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/430>
Proposed #434 Add a definition of "video viewport" and how it relates in HTML5 to object size resolution.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/434>
Proposed #438 Update CLA and License agreement<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/438>
Proposed #419Timeranges<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/419>

No other (meaningful) issues created this period.

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Agenda+ AOB

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References

Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText






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