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Re: {agenda} TTWG Meeting 2017-01-19

From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 08:34:25 +0000
To: Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org>
CC: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
Message-ID: <1DCE42D7-304C-420C-91C5-0C019EF21A4D@bbc.co.uk>
Apologies Thierry, copy/paste/not reading properly error on my part.

Nigel


> On 18 Jan 2017, at 07:43, Thierry MICHEL <tmichel@w3.org> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I havn't sent my regrets, I should attent this meeting.
> Talk to you tomorrow.
> Thierry.
>
>> Le 17/01/2017 à 22:43, Nigel Megitt a écrit :
>> *This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt
>> start at 11:03am Boston time. *
>>
>> *As discussed in London, normal meeting begin time is now _1 hour later_*
>>
>> Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the
>> correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change.
>>
>> Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170119T11&p1=43
>>
>> Thursdays 11:03am-12:00pm (or from 10:00am for 2 hour meetings) Boston local
>>
>> *Joining details: *
>>
>> see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html
>> (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please
>> contact me)
>>
>> *Agenda+ Assign Roles*
>>
>> *Chairs: *Nigel Megitt
>>
>> *Scribe:* usually Nigel – open to offers!
>>
>> *Regrets: *Thierry
>>
>> *Activity since last meeting:** *
>> See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products
>>
>>
>>        Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/
>>
>>    *We are still using tracker for /actions/ unrelated to issues.*
>>    *Please do not add or modify /issues/ in tracker!*
>>
>>
>>    IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse
>>    TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse
>>    TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse
>>    TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse
>>    TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse
>>
>>    WebVTT:* *https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse
>>
>> *Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead*
>> *
>> *
>> Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering:
>> 1. IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)
>> 2. Profiles registry
>> 3. TTML issues, actions, PRs etc
>> 4. TTML and WebVTT mapping document
>> 5. Progress on HTMLCue proposal
>> 6. WebVTT comments
>> 7. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now!
>>
>>
>>
>> Reminder re future milestones and meetings:
>>
>> _January Meetings:_
>>
>> Thursday 19th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 26th January: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>
>> Further ahead:
>>
>> Thursday 2nd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 9th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 16th February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>> Thursday 23rd February: TTWG phone meeting 1 hour
>>
>> _IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events:_ see the timeline of upcoming work
>> at _https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work _
>>
>>
>> *Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket)*
>>
>> *IMSC 1.1 update*
>>
>> *Unicode CLDR discussion*
>> Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915
>> Pierre's response to the recent update is
>> at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9
>> Email response from Shervin at
>> Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html
>>
>> Merged pull requests:
>>
>>    Prepare specification for 2ED <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/192>;
>>    Clarify effective pixel aspect ratio value
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/193>;
>>    Added a note that #zIndex is not used
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/197>;
>>    Recommend begin+dur in addition to begin+end
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/199>;
>>    Add support for editorial area <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/196>
>>
>> Open pull requests:
>>
>>    Add support for fillLineGap and optional features
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/200>
>>
>> New or discussed issues:
>>
>>    Control background between adjacent lines
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>
>> Editor's draft is directly viewable
>> at https://rawgit.com/w3c/imsc1/master/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html
>> IMSC Implementation
>> Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page.
>>
>> *Agenda+** Profiles registry.*
>> *
>> *
>> Updated (2017-01-17) Working Group Note published
>> at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-profile-registry/
>> * *
>> ID    State    Title    Person    Due Date    Associated with
>> ACTION-492 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492/edit>    pending
>> review    Publish the updated ttml profile registry at
>> https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492>    Thierry Michel
>> 2017-01-19    TTML versions and profiles note
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/12>
>>
>> *
>> *
>> Merged pull request:
>>
>>    Update index.html <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/34>
>>    Update index.html
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pull/33> (yes there are
>>    two with the same name)
>>
>> Open pull requests: none
>> Closed issues: none
>> New issue: broken link to fix
>> <https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/issues/35>
>>
>> https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry
>> http://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/
>>
>> https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ProfileRegistry
>>
>> *Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc*
>>
>> ID    State    Title    Person    Due Date    Associated with
>> ACTION-494 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494/edit>    pending
>> review    Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've
>> discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues.
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494>    Nigel Megitt
>> 2017-01-20    TTML2 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>
>>
>>
>> CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd:
>> Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html>
>>
>> CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for
>> CSS 2.2 & request for reviews
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When
>> can we schedule a review and gather feedback?
>>
>>
>> ID    State    Title    Person    Due Date    Associated with
>> ACTION-443 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit>    open
>> Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2
>> for use as a liaison document to arib.
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>    Glenn Adams
>> 2016-08-26    TTML2 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>> ACTION-462 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit>    open
>> Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles
>> of ttml" <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>    Glenn
>> Adams    2016-04-28    TTML2
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4>
>>
>>
>> Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/
>>
>> Merged Pull Requests: None
>> Open Pull Requests: Add tts:textShadow example and modify semantics
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/218>
>> New TTML1 Issues: Add note clarifying meaning of tts:direction 'ltr' and
>> 'rtl' in vertical writing modes. <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/228>
>> New TTML2 Issues: Add support for compositing a TTML2 document onto HDR
>> video <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/233>
>> Closed TTML1 Issues: Formula for dropNTSC time expressions is incorrect.
>> <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/191>; Should tts:direction apply
>> only to <span>? <https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues/227>
>> Closed TTML2 Issues: none
>> Discussed TTML1 Issues: [18 - too many to list]
>> Discussed TTML2 Issues: [12 - too many to list]
>>
>>
>> *Focus topic for this week*
>> Please prepare your thoughts for discussion of what
>> background-on-span-affecting semantics should be supported in TTML2,
>> covering at least the issues:
>>
>>    Should background of a span be height of text in line or computed
>>    lineHeight? #101 <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/101>
>>    Ways to make span background height be lineHeight #150
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/150>
>>    Clarify semantics of content bpd for inline and line areas #163
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/163>
>>    Add support for adjacent background area merging #189
>>    <https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/189>
>>
>> This is in the context also of how we resolve the recently discussed
>> IMSC 1.1 issue: Control background between adjacent lines
>> <https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/195>
>>
>>
>> Current open
>> issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues
>>
>> See spreadsheet of editorial actions
>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx
>>
>> Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/
>> at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md
>>
>> More volunteers welcomed!
>>
>> _TTML Change Proposals – progress and review_
>>
>> Change Proposal Index is at http://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/ChangeProposalIndex
>>
>> The current priority 2 CPs (needs to be complete before WD for Wide
>> Review) are:
>>
>> 5    OPEN    2    Jerry Smith    TTML2    HTML5 Mapping semantics
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal005>
>> 7    OPEN    2    Pierre-Anthony Lemieux    TTML2    3D extensions
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal007>
>> 9    OPEN    2    Pierre-Anthony Lemieux    IMSC2    Complexity model
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal009>
>> 11    OPEN    2    Pierre-Anthony Lemieux    TTML2    Metadata vocab
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal011>
>> 15    OPEN    2    Glenn Adams    TTML2    Style.CSS additions
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal015>
>> 17    OPEN    2    Glenn Adams    TTML2    Style.Defaults
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal017>
>> 19    OPEN    2    Glenn Adams    TTML2    Style.Syntax fixes
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal019>
>> 21    OPEN    2    Pierre-Anthony Lemieux    TTML2    Typography.I18n
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal021>
>> 25    OPEN    2    Nigel Megitt    TTML2    Distribution
>> <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/changeProposal025>
>>
>> *Agenda+ TTML and WebVTT Mapping Document*
>>
>> Editor's Draft is at http://w3c.github.io/ttml-webvtt-mapping/
>>
>> *Agenda+ **HTMLCue proposal progress update.*
>>
>> ID    State    Title    Person    Due Date    Associated with
>> ACTION-441 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit>    open    Kick
>> off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>    Andreas Tai
>> 2015-11-05
>>
>>
>> See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for
>> further information on this, this week.
>>
>> Also HTML import and HTMLCue?
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email
>> from 2016-09-06.
>>
>> [placeholder agenda item]
>>
>> *Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback*
>>
>> ID    State    Title    Person    Due Date    Associated with
>> ACTION-396 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit>    open
>> Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>    David Singer
>> 2015-04-17    WebVTT 1.0
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>> ACTION-473 <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>(edit)
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473/edit>    open
>> Contact co-chairs and essential parties on how to move forward on vtt;
>> need an action plan
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/473>    Thierry Michel
>> 2016-06-30    WebVTT 1.0
>> <https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8>
>>
>>
>> Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps.
>>
>> WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review
>>
>> Open Pull requests: Add a section that explains the CSS extensions to
>> authors. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/317>;* Fix #270: Add
>> classes to specify text colour
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/279>; Add requirements for region
>> identifier to exist. <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>*.
>> <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/201>
>> New issues: None
>> Closed issues: None
>> Recently discussed issues: n <https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/264>one
>>
>> *Agenda+ AOB*
>>
>> *References*
>>
>> Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText
>>
>>


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