- From: Nigel Megitt <nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
- Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:32:01 +0000
- To: Timed Text Working Group <public-tt@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <D5B0A32B.4689C%nigel.megitt@bbc.co.uk>
This meeting is scheduled for up to 60m. Please be ready for a prompt start at 10:03am Boston time. Our teleconference is scheduled with reference to Boston Time, the correct time of this teleconference in your locale may change. Check https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20170810T10&p1=43 Thursdays 10:03am-12:00pm Boston local Joining details: see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-tt/2016Oct/0009.html (members-only link – if you can't see this and wish to join please contact me) Agenda+ Assign Roles Chairs: Nigel Megitt Scribe: usually Nigel – open to offers! Regrets: None Activity since last meeting: See individual agenda items for recent activity on specific products Cross-product TTWG board: http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/board/ We are still using tracker for actions unrelated to issues. Please do not add or modify issues in tracker! IMSC: https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pulse TTML1: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/pulse TTML2: https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pulse TTML Profile Registry: https://github.com/w3c/tt-profile-registry/pulse TTML-WebVTT mapping: https://github.com/w3c/ttml-webvtt-mapping/pulse WebVTT: https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pulse Agenda+ Prioritise discussion for this meeting and look ahead Check-point for order of topics – I'd suggest, subject to reordering: 1. TPAC advanced planning 2. TTML2 Horizontal Review 3. IMSC 4. TTML issue assignment and progress tracking 5. TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc 6. WebVTT feedback (David Singer to Chair if present) 7. HDR in PNG 8. Progress on HTMLCue proposal (placeholder) 9. AOB – please notify of any other AOB now! Reminder re future milestones and meetings: August meetings: Thursday 17th August: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) - NM away Thursday 24th August: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) - NM away Thursday 31st August: TTWG phone meeting 2 Hour(s) IMSC 2 and TTML2 publication events: see the timeline of upcoming work at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/Publications#Timeline_of_TTML2_and_IMSC2_work Further ahead: Thursday 7th September: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 14th September: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 21st September: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) Thursday 28th September: TTWG phone meeting ? Hour(s) Agenda+ TPAC 2017 Advanced planning As Chair I have completed the WBS survey, requesting: Attendance for ~10 people. No preference for date, meet on any two days. Flexible about days. Joint meeting with CSS WG and with Web and TV IG. Avoid overlap with Web and TV IG. Permit observers. Not member confidential. Estimate ~6 attending technical plenary. Estimate ~3 attending AC sessions Tuesday and Thursday. https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/Overview.html Chair was asked for further clarification about the joint meetings and the overlap avoidance; since Web and TV IG are likely to meet on the Monday, and CSSWG on the Monday and Tuesday, I requested Thursday and Friday for the main TTWG meetings with joint agenda slots with the other two groups on Monday and/or Tuesday. Agenda+ TTML2 Horizontal Review ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-497<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/497>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/497/edit> pending review Invite csswg to joint meeting at tpac 2017, with list of topics.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/497> Nigel Megitt 2017-06-15 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> The CSS WG has been invited to meet us at TPAC on the Friday. Collate list of the issues we want to open with CSS WG This is at https://www.w3.org/wiki/TTML/CSSRequirements TAG, CSSWG and Privacy feedback needs processing into TTML2 issues. CSS Review of TTML2, threads: FW: TTML2 horizontal review with CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0013.html> and Fwd: Subtitle/caption styling + TTML + CSS<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0019.html> Agenda+ IMSC (now incorporates Unicode ticket) IMSC Tests released as v1.0.0 at https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests/releases/tag/v1.0.0 . ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-500<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/500>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/500/edit> open Create a new repo imsc-vnext-reqs<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/500> Thierry Michel 2017-08-10 IMSC1.0.1 Internationalisation issues (if Richard and/or Addison are able to attend) IMSC 1.0.1 IMSC 1.0.1 WD for Wide Review published at https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/ IMSC 1 Rec available at https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-ttml-imsc1-20160421/ Patent policy call for exclusions sent 2017-02-03, archived at https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2017Feb/0006.html Editor's draft is directly viewable at http://w3c.github.io/imsc/imsc1/spec/ttml-ww-profiles.html IMSC Implementation Page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText/IMSC1_implementation_page. IMSC Tests repository: https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests Unicode CLDR discussion Unicode ticket is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915 Pierre's response to the recent update is at http://unicode.org/cldr/trac/ticket/8915#comment:9 Email response from Shervin at Unicode https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0018.html Merged IMSC pull requests: None Open IMSC pull requests: None New or discussed IMSC issues: Mixed units in tts:origin and tts:extent value<https://github.com/w3c/imsc/issues/249> Closed IMSC issues: None Merged IMSC Tests pull requests: None Open IMSC Tests pull requests: None New or discussed IMSC Tests issues: None Closed IMSC Tests issues: Declare a v1 release<https://github.com/w3c/imsc-tests/issues/36> Agenda+ TTML issue assignment and progress tracking (20 minutes maximum) We have now published the WD for WR however there are still many issues open, and we intend also to apply multiple fixes as already agreed for TTML1. At the moment of writing this agenda, there are: TTML1 issues: * 3 open issues with no milestone, none marked as discussed and agreed * 37 open issues in "3rd Ed" milestone, 15 marked as discussed and agreed * 11 open issues in "3rd Ed Test Suite" milestone, none marked as discussed and agreed TTML2 issues: * 2 open issues on the Editor's WR Work List milestone, 1 of which has a PR (#397); * 52 open issues with no milestone, none of which has a PR open label. * 7 open issues awaiting some feedback on disposition, which are in the "Group's WR action required list" milestone, including #316 which is to review the deprecations before finalising the WR. Agenda+ TTML1 & TTML2 issues, actions, PRs, editorial actions etc Internationalisation review by r12a has generated several new issues on TTML2 and comments on existing issues (see below), this week mainly about alignment with relatively recent CSS developments. CSS 2.2 request for reviews from TTWG et al: Pre-announcement of CR for CSS 2.2 & request for reviews<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Dec/0017.html> When can we schedule a review and gather feedback? Actions: ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-443<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443/edit> open Prepare a document showing mapping arib ruby extension features to ttml2 for use as a liaison document to arib.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/443> Glenn Adams 2016-08-26 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> ACTION-462<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462/edit> open Create issue on ttml2 to add "mapping from other versions and profiles of ttml"<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/462> Glenn Adams 2016-04-28 TTML2<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/4> Most recent WD published at https://www.w3.org/TR/2017/WD-ttml2-20170106/ Merged TTML1 Pull Requests: None Merged TTML2 Pull Requests: None Open TTML1 Pull Requests: None Open TTML2 Pull Requests: Remove HLG HDR step 8 superscript 5b<https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/pull/398> New TTML1 Issues: None New TTML2 Issues: None Closed TTML1 Issues: None Closed TTML2 Issues: None Discussed TTML1 Issues: None Discussed TTML2 Issues: None Focus topic(s) for this week Pull Requests We already agreed to merge the one open PR – nothing to discuss here. Issues Iterate through open issues with no PR – decide action to take on each, e.g. defer to CR, defer to TTML.next, close etc. If there are any issues that we decide need to be resolved before WR a proposal for the fix is needed ASAP (basically, it's too late already unless it can easily be agreed by the group). Current open issues: https://github.com/w3c/ttml1/issues and https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues See spreadsheet of editorial actions at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/ednotes.xlsx Edit/build instructions now in README in ttml2/spec/ at https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/blob/master/spec/README.md Agenda+ WebVTT review feedback ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-396<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396/edit> open Produce evidence of request for wide review for webvtt, for the archive<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/396> David Singer 2015-04-17 WebVTT 1.0<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/products/8> ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-501<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/501>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/501/edit> open Write to david and the cg saying we should publish a new wd with a 6 week review period.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/501> Thierry Michel 2017-08-10 ACTION-502<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502/edit> open Explain to david that we need a more consistent disposition of comments for webvtt.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/502> Thierry Michel 2017-08-10 Discussion on WebVTT review feedback and next steps. What are the WG's views on the dispositions generated by the CG? Resolve to publish a new WD? (not strictly necessary) WebVTT Wide review wiki page: https://www.w3.org/wiki/WebVTT_Wide_Review Open Pull requests: Prepare a new WD.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/351> Merged Pull requests: None New issues: What are "CSS character escape sequences"?<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/issues/352> Closed issues: None Recently discussed issues: Prepare a new WD.<https://github.com/w3c/webvtt/pull/351> Agenda+ HDR in PNG We published this Note at https://www.w3.org/TR/png-hdr-pq/ (republished 25th July incorporating fix for typo) Repo for PQ HDR in PNG: https://github.com/w3c/png-hdr-pq Draft WG Note: https://w3c.github.io/png-hdr-pq/ Merged pull requests: None Open pull requests: None New or discussed issues: None Closed issues: None Agenda+ HTMLCue proposal progress update. ID State Title Person Due Date Associated with ACTION-441<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441>[(edit)]<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441/edit> open Kick off the analysis work on the vttcue carrying html idea.<https://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/441> Andreas Tai 2015-11-05 See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Apr/0012.html for further information on this, this week. Also HTML import and HTMLCue?<https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tt/2016Sep/0003.html> email from 2016-09-06. See also the notes from the TAG meeting (see agenda item above) at which the inability to instantiate TextTrackCue objects in most browsers was mentioned. [placeholder agenda item] Agenda+ AOB References Wiki http://www.w3.org/wiki/TimedText ---------------------------- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. 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