- From: John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:59:53 -0700
- To: JC Cannon <jccannon@microsoft.com>
- Cc: Jeffrey Chester <jeff@democraticmedia.org>, Chris Pedigo <CPedigo@online-publishers.org>, Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>, "ifette@google.com" <ifette@google.com>, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
- Message-Id: <44F4842C-9425-4BFB-87C0-68B858F5A7AC@consumerwatchdog.org>
Hi JC, For what it's worth, my position regarding #1. is that under DNT:1 a first party could not use -- append -- any 3rd party data. I'm not sure I understand the use case in #2. Do you mean: A user with DNT:1 set would visit a website. As a 1st party the website could collect data about that user's visit. Later, after the user has left the site, data from a 3rd party is appended to the earlier data set? That should not be allowed under DNT:1 either, but I'm not sure that is the use case you are suggesting. Could you please clarify what you are envisioning in #2? Regards, John --------- John M. Simpson Privacy Project Director Consumer Watchdog 2701 Ocean Park Blvd., Suite 112 Santa Monica, CA, 90405 Tel: 310-392-7041 Cell: 310-292-1902 www.ConsumerWatchdog.org john@consumerwatchdog.org On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:54 PM, JC Cannon <jccannon@microsoft.com> wrote: > Jeff, > > Could you map out the scenario as you see it happening? It sounds like you are mixing two issues. > > 1. Are you stating that a 1st party cannot use 3rd party data in real-time, that is not impacted by DNT, for personalization? > 2. Are you stating that during an offline state that a 1st party cannot perform data append? There is DNT signal at that point. > > Regards, > JC > > From: Jeffrey Chester [mailto:jeff@democraticmedia.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:41 PM > To: Chris Pedigo > Cc: Rigo Wenning; public-tracking@w3.org; ifette@google.com; David Singer > Subject: Re: DNT:1 and "data append" > > 3rd data append companies bundle huge data sets that include public information, but also proprietary information. Offline is also integrated with online as well. I don't think (in the US) there is serious consent to the current state of data append. This is not out of scope for a robust DNT spec. > > > > > Jeffrey Chester > Center for Digital Democracy > 1621 Connecticut Ave, NW, Suite 550 > Washington, DC 20009 > www.democraticmedia.org > www.digitalads.org > 202-986-2220 > > On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Chris Pedigo wrote: > > > Again, under the current framework of our standard, first parties will not be able to share data with each other about DNT:1 users. And, third parties will not be able to collect any data about DNT:1 users. You are proposing to restrict first parties from acquiring data that is publicly available, collected with consent or offline data. This is out of scope for DNT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Chester [mailto:jeff@democraticmedia.org] > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:57 PM > To: Rigo Wenning > Cc: public-tracking@w3.org; Chris Pedigo; ifette@google.com; David Singer > Subject: Re: DNT:1 and "data append" > > First parties now engage in data append with many, many data partners for targeting. It's a common practice and should not be permitted when a user signals DNT. > > > > >
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