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RE: DNT:1 and "data append"

From: JC Cannon <jccannon@microsoft.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 19:54:28 +0000
To: Jeffrey Chester <jeff@democraticmedia.org>, Chris Pedigo <CPedigo@online-publishers.org>
CC: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>, "ifette@google.com" <ifette@google.com>, "David Singer" <singer@apple.com>
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Jeff,

Could you map out the scenario as you see it happening? It sounds like you are mixing two issues.


1.     Are you stating that a 1st party cannot use 3rd party data in real-time, that is not impacted by DNT, for personalization?

2.    Are you stating that during an offline state that a 1st party cannot perform data append? There is DNT signal at that point.

Regards,
JC

From: Jeffrey Chester [mailto:jeff@democraticmedia.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:41 PM
To: Chris Pedigo
Cc: Rigo Wenning; public-tracking@w3.org; ifette@google.com; David Singer
Subject: Re: DNT:1 and "data append"

3rd data append companies bundle huge data sets that include public information, but also proprietary information.  Offline is also integrated with online as well.   I don't think (in the US) there is serious consent to the current state of data append.  This is not out of scope for a robust DNT spec.




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On Mar 20, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Chris Pedigo wrote:


Again, under the current framework of our standard, first parties will not be able to share data with each other about DNT:1 users.  And, third parties will not be able to collect any data about DNT:1 users.  You are proposing to restrict first parties from acquiring data that is publicly available, collected with consent or offline data.  This is out of scope for DNT.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Chester [mailto:jeff@democraticmedia.org]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:57 PM
To: Rigo Wenning
Cc: public-tracking@w3.org<mailto:public-tracking@w3.org>; Chris Pedigo; ifette@google.com<mailto:ifette@google.com>; David Singer
Subject: Re: DNT:1 and "data append"

First parties now engage in data append with many, many data partners for targeting.  It's a common practice and should not be permitted when a user signals DNT.
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