RE: Explanatory Memorandum

Thomas,

As you can imagine, "weakest" in this context is highly subjective.  Is there a way to bring a more objective guideline to play?  Again, in aggregate, the "strongest" objection was AGAINST the "June Draft".

- Shane

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Roessler [mailto:tlr@w3.org] 
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:46 PM
To: Shane Wiley
Cc: Alan Chapell; public-tracking@w3.org; Peter Swire; Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation)
Subject: Re: Explanatory Memorandum

The metric in the process document is the "weakest" objection.

Thomas Roessler, W3C <tlr@w3.org> (@roessler)




On 2013-07-18, at 16:42 -0400, Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com> wrote:

> Thomas,
> 
> I'm confused on the metric for least objection in this context.  If you review the objections in whole, 'industry' collectively objected to the June Draft and 'advocates' collectively objected to the Industry Draft -AND- the June Draft.  In aggregate it would appear the Industry Draft has the LEAST objection.  The memo of explanation constantly quotes this concept of "group decision" when its plainly clear this is not the case based on the evidence.
> 
> - Shane
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Roessler [mailto:tlr@w3.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:32 PM
> To: Alan Chapell
> Cc: public-tracking@w3.org; Peter Swire; Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation)
> Subject: Re: Explanatory Memorandum
> 
> On 2013-07-18, at 15:41 -0400, Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com> wrote:
> 
>>  Why was the document entitled "What Base Text to Use for the Do Not Track Compliance Specification" ("Decision Document") characterized as a group decision rather than a chair's decision? The Decision Document repeatedly uses the term "group decision." However, a group decision would seem to suggest that WG member votes were tallied, but I don't see votes tabulated anywhere. 
> 
> The document is correctly characterized as a group decision:  Based on the discussion and the objections received, the chairs identified the path forward that drew the weakest objections, and recorded it as a group decision (as is their task).
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> Of note, in the W3C process document: "Groups should favor proposals that create the weakest objections. This is preferred over proposals that are supported by a large majority but that cause strong objections from a few people."
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> Also of note: "When the Chair believes that the Group has duly considered the legitimate concerns of dissenters as far as is possible and reasonable, the group should move on."
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