W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > public-tracking@w3.org > January 2013

RE: Batch closing of issues (ISSUE-144, ISSUE-187, ISSUE-190, ISSUE-173, ISSUE-138) [pls Respond by Jan 30]

From: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2013 21:01:53 +0000
To: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>, "Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation)" <mts-std@schunter.org>
CC: David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-ID: <DCCF036E573F0142BD90964789F720E313600EE3@GQ1-EX10-MB03.y.corp.yahoo.com>
Jonathan,

To your points, I believe the middle-ground it appears many agreed to (from both sides - at least at the last F2F and recent calls/IRC) was:

- Consent:  keep the need for explicit consent but don’t define this in granular terms (cuts both ways from an activation / exception perspective)
- Exceptions and UAs:  allow exceptions to be directly recorded but allow UAs to optionally build verifications systems if they so desire

If you disagree with these concessions from both sides, please let the group know.

Thank you,
- Shane

From: Jonathan Mayer [mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:38 PM
To: Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation)
Cc: David Singer; public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
Subject: Re: Batch closing of issues (ISSUE-144, ISSUE-187, ISSUE-190, ISSUE-173, ISSUE-138) [pls Respond by Jan 30]

Participants from the advertising industry have raised objections about standards for consent in the new model.  Advocacy group members have expressed concerns about removing browser chrome from the exception user experience.  It seems apparent that we do not have a consensus in favor of the new approach.

Jonathan


On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation) wrote:
Hi Jonathan,


I believe that we agree to focus on this new approach:
- Many participants expressed preference for the new approach (while saying that some fine-tuning is still required)
- All participants "can live with" this new approach

From a privacy perspective, IMHO it is beneficial that user agents can validate exceptions
with the actual user and can keep an (editable) database of all granted exceptions. Also - due to the fact that less
requirements are imposed on the UA - I believe that UAs can compete and differentiate more effectively with this new approach.

Opinions?

Regards,
matthias


On 22/01/2013 17:57, Jonathan Mayer wrote:
Do we have a consensus in favor of the new approach to exceptions?  It's been discussed a lot, but as I recall, some members of the group have reservations.


On Tuesday, January 22, 2013 at 3:23 AM, David Singer wrote:
If we close these, I suggest that those that are mentioned in the text get their mentions removed, specifically:

On Jan 21, 2013, at 14:07 , Matthias Schunter (Intel Corporation) <mts-std@schunter.org<mailto:mts-std@schunter.org>> wrote:

--------------------------------
ISSUE-144: User-granted Exceptions: Constraints on user agent behavior while granting and for future requests?
http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/144


IMHO, the new approach to exceptions has removed the requirements on the user agent.
As a consequence, I believe we can close this issue.
----------------------------------
ISSUE-190: Sites with multiple first parties
http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/track/issues/190


Roy has proposed changes as response to ACTION-328 and (unless there are objections), I suggest to implement the changes suggested:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-tracking/2012Nov/0004.html



please let the editors know when to clean these two references from the document…

David Singer
Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.



Received on Tuesday, 22 January 2013 21:02:45 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.4.0 : Friday, 17 January 2020 17:39:18 UTC