- From: Dobbs, Brooks <Brooks.Dobbs@kbmg.com>
- Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 18:33:30 +0000
- To: Rigo Wenning <rigo@w3.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
- CC: Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>, "Edward W. Felten" <felten@cs.princeton.edu>
Rigo, With respect to neutrality, should we be more careful than to say DNT "on" or "off" where "on" may imply DNT:1 as opposed to enabling either signal? Should your 1/ be "A user must be informed clearly and accurately about the choices available before a preference may be registered by the User Agent." -Brooks -- Brooks Dobbs, CIPP | Chief Privacy Officer | KBM Group | Part of the Wunderman Network (Tel) 678 580 2683 | (Mob) 678 492 1662 | kbmg.com brooks.dobbs@kbmg.com This email - including attachments - may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not copy, distribute or act on it. Instead, notify the sender immediately and delete the message. On 4/25/13 1:54 PM, "Rigo Wenning" <rigo@w3.org> wrote: >Alan, > >let me try with some alternative wording to overcome this >misunderstanding: > >To turn DNT on: > >1/ A user must be informed clearly and accurately about the choices >available before turning DNT on or off. > >2/ When making the choice, the user must have access to explanatory text >to provide more detailed information about DNT functionality and the >parties involved in the DNT functionality > >This takes away the "user agent". Your understanding of the Web is >narrowed by the entrenched discussion around defaults. But the issue >here is not defaults, but that the Web can run on everything. Thus you >have to address the requirements in a more neutral way so that it >doesn't say user agent, as your fridge is not the user agent in the >classic sense of a browser. > > --Rigo > >On Thursday 25 April 2013 08:51:38 Alan Chapell wrote: >> So it sounds like we're in agreement re: concept, but might be in >> disagreement re: the language. I've modified some of the language >> suggested by Adrian. Does this address your concern? IMHO, "The User >> Agent MUST ensure©" seems pretty clear and covers your music service >> scenario. >> >> If not, what do you think needs to change? >> >> >> 1. User agents are responsible for determining the user experience >> by which a tracking preference is controlled; >> 2. User agents MUST ensure that tracking preference choices are >> communicated to users clearly and accurately and shown at the time and >> place the tracking preference choice is made available to a user; >> 3. User agents MUST ensure that the tracking preference choices >> accurately describe the parties to whom DNT applies and MUST make >> available explanatory text to provide more detailed information about >> DNT functionality. >> > >
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