Re: ACTION-390: alternative UA affordances for DNT choice

What about this language?


1.    User agents are responsible for determining the user experience by which a tracking preference is controlled;
2.      User agents MUST ensure that tracking preference choices are communicated to users clearly and accurately and shown at the time and place the tracking preference choice is made available to a user;
3.      User agents SHOULD ensure that the tracking preference choices accurately describe the parties to whom DNT applies.




On Apr 25, 2013, at 5:51 AM, Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com> wrote:

> So it sounds like we're in agreement re: concept, but might be in disagreement re: the language. I've modified some of the language suggested by Adrian. Does this address your concern? IMHO, "The User Agent MUST ensure…" seems pretty clear and covers your music service scenario.
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> If not, what do you think needs to change?
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> 1.    User agents are responsible for determining the user experience by which a tracking preference is controlled;
> 2.      User agents MUST ensure that tracking preference choices are communicated to users clearly and accurately and shown at the time and place the tracking preference choice is made available to a user;
> 3.      User agents MUST ensure that the tracking preference choices accurately describe the parties to whom DNT applies and MUST make availableexplanatory text to provide more detailed information about DNT functionality.
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> From: David Singer <singer@apple.com>
> Date: Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:58 PM
> To: Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com>
> Cc: "Edward W. Felten" <felten@CS.Princeton.EDU>, "<public-tracking@w3.org>" <public-tracking@w3.org>
> Subject: Re: ACTION-390: alternative UA affordances for DNT choice
> Resent-From: <public-tracking@w3.org>
> Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 01:59:49 +0000
> 
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>> On Apr 21, 2013, at 4:16 , Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Apr 20, 2013, at 0:04 , Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com> wrote:
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>>>>> Thanks David. A few things come to mind after reading your and Ed's examples.
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>>>>> The radio app running on a computer
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>>>> No, no.  Maybe I did not explain.  It's not an app, it's a little black box.  The computer is only needed to *configure* it over the network.  Once configured, it runs without a computer.  My Onkyo stereo is an example.  This is not hypothetical.
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>>> Ok, thanks. Just so I understand. The computer configures the radio service, correct? Why can't the disclosures be provided via the computer when DNT is enacted?
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>> That's what I would suggest in this case.  But that would not meet a requirement of "full disclosure *by the user-agent*", which is the essence of this discussion. Yes, the DNT should signal result from informed users' choice, but it might not be the user-agent itself that exposes the choice.  (The user-agent in this case is in the internet radio).
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>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
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