- From: Alan Chapell <achapell@chapellassociates.com>
- Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 10:25:14 -0400
- To: Sid Stamm <sid@mozilla.com>, David Singer <singer@apple.com>
- CC: Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com>, Justin Brookman <justin@cdt.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Thanks Sid. Your email cut off after "should not be tied to other" -- can you complete that sentence? On 4/11/13 10:16 AM, "Sid Stamm" <sid@mozilla.com> wrote: >Hi All, > >Apologies for not joining the call this week, I got pulled into a >face-to-face meeting and couldn't break away. > >On 4/10/13 9:19 AM, David Singer wrote: >> I think this is much better. >> >> I also appreciate that we should try not to use MUST for >> non-testable considerations, to the greatest extent possible. > >I agree with both of these statements. > >The problem I think we're trying to solve is "correct preference >solicitation". I am encouraged by how Adrian's text covers both >exceptions and the global settings in one package. > >Aside, regarding non-normative text -- I think Alan's proposed >non-normative stuff was a reasonable block, though we should tweak it to >encompass exceptions UI on web properties if we decide to include it. >I'm not convinced it's absolutely crucial for inclusion, though, and it >does make the document more complicated. Mozilla published a field >guide for DNT to aid in the practicalities of UI and implementation, and >I anticipate others will probably do the same regardless of what the >compliance doc says. > >Specific thoughts on Adrian's update: > >> On Apr 9, 2013, at 22:03 , Adrian Bateman <adrianba@microsoft.com> >>wrote: >>> >>> I offer the following text for consideration as an alternative to >>>Alanšs proposal: >>> >>> 5. User Preferences >>> User agents and web sites MUST obtain express and informed consent >>> when setting controls that affect the tracking preference >>> expression. The controls MUST communicate the user's preference in >>> accordance with the [TRACKING-DNT] recommendation. >>> >>> User agents and web sites offering tracking preference choices to >>> users MUST follow the following user interface guidelines: >>> 1. User agents and web sites are responsible for determining >>> the user experience by which a tracking preference is controlled; >>> 2. User agents and web sites MUST ensure that tracking >>> preference choices are communicated to users clearly and accurately >>> and shown at the time and place the tracking preference choice is >>> made available to a user; > >In the spirit of David Singer's comments about MUST, how do we test that >the preference choices are clear and accurate? (e.g., If "clear and >accurate" means a paragraph of text in the browser settings, I'm >concerned I will have trouble convincing our user experience designers >it's a good idea.) If the intent here is that the activation of DNT >(and exceptions) should not be tied to other > >>> 3. User agents and web sites SHOULD ensure that the tracking >>> preference choices describe the parties to whom DNT applies and >>> SHOULD make available explanatory text to provide more detailed >>> information about DNT functionality. > >I like this revision as it doesn't tie the available information to a >"link". > >-Sid > >
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