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Re: Your W3C affiliation with Stanford University?

From: John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org>
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:46:47 -0700
Message-Id: <7355DBE5-CD1D-4DE6-A968-0A2ABB968530@consumerwatchdog.org>
Cc: Chris Mejia <chris.mejia@iab.net>, public-tracking@w3.org, Thomas Roessler - W3C <tlr@w3.org>
To: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>
I am dismayed and  puzzled by the turn the email exchanges have taken over the last few days.

That said, could you, Chris, please clarify your status and the status of IAB within the working group?  It's possible that the list of participants on the WG's website is not current and if that's the case, I apologize. But, from what I could see, you are not listed as a Working Group participant nor is IAB.

The only reference to an Interactive Advertising Bureau is to four members representing IAB Europe.

You frequently offer thoughtful, incisive analysis and I always read you emails with interest, but to echo your question to Jonathan: For whom do you speak?


John M. Simpson
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On Oct 24, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Jonathan Mayer wrote:

> Chris,
> I believe I've been entirely transparent about the terms of my participation in the working group.  I'd like to continue to be open about this procedural issue, and so it seems only appropriate to field questions on the group's mailing list.
> As to the particulars: I participate in the working group through Stanford University's W3C membership.  You're welcome to share your concerns with the Stanford institutions I listed.  All maintain public websites and contact information.
> I would be glad to answer any further questions in your newly-"launched . . . inquiry about [my]/Stanford's participation."
> Jonathan
> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Chris Mejia wrote:
>> I wrote a personal email to you Jonathan.  Why did you find it necessary to copy the public working group on your reply?
>> I'm copying Thomas Roessler, as I have launched an inquiry about your/Stanford's participation in this working group, and your conduct here.
>> Btw- you didn't actually answer my questions:  
>> Is your involvement in this working group through your student affiliation at Stanford University?  
>> Would you please broker an introduction to your supervisor?
>> Thank You,
>> C. Mejia
>> Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group | Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB 
>> From: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>
>> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 1:27 PM
>> To: Chris Mejia - IAB <chris.mejia@iab.net>, W3C DNT Working Group Mailing List <public-tracking@w3.org>
>> Subject: Re: Your W3C affiliation with Stanford University?
>> Chris,
>> My research groups at Stanford are the Security Lab, the Center for Internet and Society, and the Center for International Security and Cooperation.  I'm generously funded by a Stanford Interdisciplinary Graduate Fellowship, which is overseen by the Vice Provost for Graduate Education.  You can direct your concerns to those institutions.
>> I speak only for myself, of course.  I've made that clear on many occasions.
>> Jonathan
>> On Wednesday, October 24, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Chris Mejia wrote:
>>> Hi Jonathan,
>>> Thanks again for taking time to meet with me last week in San Francisco— I found our conversation enlightening.
>>> In following up on my previous request, I'll be frank here, not to be rude, but to be transparent and forthcoming.  I'd like to understand if your participation in the W3C is through your student affiliation with Stanford University (they are the W3C member), or if it's you representing your own personal views, positions and assertions?  As you are currently listed as a participant under Stanford's membership to the W3C, I'd like to know who (which Stanford staff/department) supervises your contributions to the working group?  If you could kindly broker an introduction, it would be appreciated.
>>> Thank You,
>>> Chris
>>> Chris Mejia | Digital Supply Chain Solutions | Ad Technology Group | Interactive Advertising Bureau - IAB 
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