- From: Mike O'Neill <michael.oneill@baycloud.com>
- Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 16:47:55 +0100
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Rachel, To make this intelligible to software components like user-agents or regulatory audit scanners and the like, the "legal entity" responsible for operating a web site or making decisions on whether it can record data (track) will have to be declared. At the moment all we have is the host domain name and this is the only way we have to transparently differentiate 3rd from 1st parties. To do the same under your definition we will need a reference to the legal entity in the tracking resource or somewhere similar. Mike From: Rachel Thomas [mailto:RThomas@the-dma.org] Sent: 10 October 2012 15:48 To: Craig Spiezle; public-tracking@w3.org Subject: RE: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents Hi Craig, great question - let me try to clarify with some additional info from the DAA principles. Below is the definition of "affiliate" as well as some commentary on the definition from the DAA's Self-Regulatory Principles for Online Behavioral Advertising. (Also, please note that while there is not an explicit definition of "affiliate" included in the DAA's Self-Regulatory Principles for Multi-Site Data, the same definition applies in that context as well). AFFILIATE Definition: An Affiliate is an entity that Controls, is Controlled by, or is under common Control with, another entity. Commentary (relating to definitions of both "affiliate" and "control"): These terms set an objective test to separate related First Party entities from Third Parties and others. An Affiliate is defined as an entity that Controls, is Controlled by, or is under common Control with, another entity. The definition of Control sets out two alternative tests, which reflect a commonly understood definition of a single entity. The first alternative looks to whether one entity is under significant common ownership with the other entity. The second alternative looks to whether one entity has the power to exercise a controlling influence over the management or policies of the other. In addition, each entity must be subject to Online Behavioral Advertising policies that are not materially inconsistent with the other entity's Online Behavioral Advertising policies. The combination of Control and governance by similar Online Behavioral Advertising policies renders the two entities Affiliates of each other. The tests for Control are unrelated to brand names. As a result, different brands, if they otherwise meet one of the tests for Control, would be treated as Affiliates rather than Third Parties. The starting point for whether two or more affiliated consumer-facing Web sites constitute a First Party under the Principles is whether the Web sites are the same company. The use of the term Affiliate is intended to allow affiliated companies that are in the same corporate family to share information within that family as if they are the same company, thereby benefitting from their collective assets. The treatment of Affiliates is not intended to create a means for companies that are in reality unrelated in corporate structure (and, therefore, that consumers would never expect would be sharing information,) to avoid providing the choice required under these Principles. In many cases companies can readily be transparent either in branding on the Web sites or through clarity in the privacy notices of their particular Affiliates. Assuming an entity otherwise meets the standard set forth in the definition of Control, such practices would clearly satisfy and permit inclusion in the definition of Affiliate. However, such branding on a Web site or inclusion in a privacy notice is not required under the Principles as in some instances the complexity of corporate affiliates driven by corporate legal principles pose practical operational challenges. And very best, Rachel From: Craig Spiezle [mailto:craigs@otalliance.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:58 PM To: Rachel Thomas; public-tracking@w3.org Subject: RE: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents This is helpful. Just so we are all on the same page can you clarify affiliate vs. non-affiliate. Is it correct to assume affiliate means a wholly owned entity? So a Third Party who collects data from an affiliate is not a third party. So this would or could mean a totally separate brand which the user has no knowledge of? Thanks From: Rachel Thomas [mailto:RThomas@the-dma.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 1:16 PM To: public-tracking@w3.org Subject: ACTION-267 - Propose first/third party definitions from existing DAA documents Folks - As promised, I am submitting the Digital Advertising Alliance (DAA) definitions of "first party" and "third party" for consideration / inclusion in section 3.5 <http://www.w3.org/2011/tracking-protection/drafts/tracking-compliance.html# first-third-parties> ("First and Third Parties") of the W3C TPWG "Tracking Compliance and Scope" document. Below are both formal definitions and related commentary from the DAA Self-Regulatory Principles for Multi-Site Data <https://www.aboutads.info/resource/download/Multi-Site-Data-Principles.pdf> . FIRST PARTY Definition: A First Party is the entity that is the owner of the Web site or has Control over the Web site with which the consumer interacts and its Affiliates. Commentary: The actions of agents and other entities that similarly perform business operations of First Parties are treated as if they stand in the shoes of First Parties under these Principles and thus such actions are not included in Multi-Site Data. THIRD PARTY Definition: An entity is a Third Party to the extent that it collects Multi-Site Data on a non-Affiliate's Web site. Commentary: As described in the OBA Principles, in certain situations where it is clear that the consumer is interacting with a portion of a Web site that is being operated by a different entity than the owner of the Web site, the different entity would not be a Third Party for purposes of the Principles, because the consumer would reasonably understand the nature of the direct interaction with that entity. The situation where this occurs most frequently today is where an entity through a "widget" or "video player" enables content on a Web site and it is clear that such content and that portion of the Web sites is provided by the other entity and not the First Party Web site. The other entity (e.g. the "widget" or "video player") is directly interacting with the consumer and, from the consumer's perspective, acting as a First Party. Thus, it is unnecessary to apply to these activities the Principles governing data collection and use by Third Parties with which the consumer is not directly interacting. Very best, Rachel Rachel Nyswander Thomas Vice President, Government Affairs Direct Marketing Association (202) 861-2443 office (202) 560-2335 cell <mailto:rthomas@the-dma.org> rthomas@the-dma.org Join us at DMA2012 Conference and Exhibition The Global Event for Real-Time Marketers October 13-18, 2012 | Las Vegas, NV Register NOW & SAVE up to $200 | <http://www.dma12.org> www.dma12.org
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