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Re: Poll text call: final text by 28 September

From: John Simpson <john@consumerwatchdog.org>
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 12:01:07 -0700
Message-Id: <9B5DC62A-77E3-4F15-84F7-86B8AFE4A229@consumerwatchdog.org>
Cc: Nicholas Doty <npdoty@w3.org>, "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
To: "Roy T. Fielding" <fielding@gbiv.com>
Apologies, Roy.   I'm not sure I'm following you here.  Are you referring to data collection and saying that third parties cannot control collection because they cannot stop what they receive? And that all they can control is what they do with the data?  Under DNT they would stop *tracking* -- using the data collected  for any purpose other than permitted uses?  Is that what you are advocating?


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On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:23 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:

> On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:46 AM, Nicholas Doty wrote:
>> Whether we pursue Justin/Ian's text for Option 1 or not, I don't think it makes sense to apply that text to Option 2. Applying a list of prohibited practices to data retained for any publicly stated time period would reverse the widespread agreement over the form of the Third Party Compliance section: a general prohibition with an enumerated (white) list of permitted uses.
> Umm, I don't know why you think that has "wide-spread agreement".
> I have objected to it a number of times, and I have seen no evidence
> to suggest that a blanket prohibition would be adopted by third party
> sites given that those sites have very little control over what data
> is received.  Sites have suggested they are willing to turn off
> tracking because that is *behavior* to which they can comply.
> ....Roy
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