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Re: Opt-back-in Information API (ACTION-94)

From: Jonathan Mayer <jmayer@stanford.edu>
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:46:08 +0100
Cc: "public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)" <public-tracking@w3.org>
Message-Id: <6FC42DBC-70D3-49C9-9626-616E2DA2B526@stanford.edu>
To: Shane Wiley <wileys@yahoo-inc.com>
Which "original proposal" are you referring to?

On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:37 PM, Shane Wiley wrote:

> Our original proposal carries 2 arguments: text + link.  Your proposal reduces to only a link - hence limiting UI options and somewhat prescribing a single UI outcome.
> 
> - Shane
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan Mayer [mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:32 PM
> To: Shane Wiley
> Cc: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
> Subject: Re: Opt-back-in Information API (ACTION-94)
> 
> I don't follow.  These proposals strictly increase user interface options for websites and browsers.
> 
> On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Shane Wiley wrote:
> 
>> Correction - "...you'd rather send the user to the "learn more" page the link resolves to."
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Shane Wiley [mailto:wileys@yahoo-inc.com] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 8:02 PM
>> To: Jonathan Mayer; public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
>> Subject: RE: Opt-back-in Information API (ACTION-94)
>> 
>> Jonathan,
>> 
>> Doesn't this promote a UI treatment to some degree?  I believe our language was built to avoid the UI treatment and instead provide the raw elements to allow multiple UI treatments to occur (text + link).  I believe your proposal is asking instead of provide a top-line message to users with a link to more, you'd rather simply send the user to the "learn more" link.  I'd rather the two stage approach (even with suggested language to make sure we're not attempt to hide anything from users) but believe forcing them to the full page will be considered a negative outcome by many users (more "pop-up" windows with even greater text).
>> 
>> - Shane
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jonathan Mayer [mailto:jmayer@stanford.edu] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:59 PM
>> To: public-tracking@w3.org (public-tracking@w3.org)
>> Subject: Opt-back-in Information API (ACTION-94)
>> 
>> Proposal:
>> 
>> boolean requestSiteSpecificTrackingException(String domain, [optional] String notificationText, [optional] moreURL)
>> 
>> The browser prompts the user with text and a link to learn more about the opt-back-in request.
>> 
>> Alternative proposal:
>> 
>> boolean requestSiteSpecificTrackingException(String domain, [optional] String notificationURL)
>> 
>> The browser renders a page (e.g. in a floating div) that gives the user more information about the opt-back-in request.
>> 
> 
Received on Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:46:43 UTC

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