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RE: Propose to drop from the strawman: ISSUE-93

From: Mike Zaneis <mike@iab.net>
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:40:43 +0000
To: Jules Polonetsky <julespol@futureofprivacy.org>, "'Amy Colando (LCA)'" <acolando@microsoft.com>, 'Karl Dubost' <karld@opera.com>, 'David Wainberg' <dwainberg@appnexus.com>
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I agree with Jules, Amy, and David on this point.  Sorry to use the +1 but I do believe that the more input we get from participants the closer we will be to closing out certain issues.  

Just to push back on whether ISSUE-93 is out of scope or not, it seems strange to me that a W3C technical specification would provide "permissions" for basic business operations.  A DNT "technical" standard that "allows" millions of businesses/publishers to offer their content and services in this way or that way seems fundamentally out of scope.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: public-tracking-request@w3.org [mailto:public-tracking-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Jules Polonetsky
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:59 PM
To: 'Amy Colando (LCA)'; 'Karl Dubost'; 'David Wainberg'
Cc: public-tracking@w3.org
Subject: RE: Propose to drop from the strawman: ISSUE-93

Note that a typical degrading effect might be the very common situation
where a cookie is used to frequency cap at 1 time a pop-up or full page ad
takeover.  A site might allow its third party adserver to trigger a full
page ad or pop up ad but insist that it happen only the first time an
individual visits the site or no more than once a week.  Yes, the site could
work around and track in first party context, but they have outsourced all
their adserving as most sites have.   I can think of other examples where a
third party cookie may be used for the individuals benefit - and where site
work arounds are possible, but could easily be ignored by the site,
especially if a small minority of users are affected.



-----Original Message-----
From: public-tracking-request@w3.org [mailto:public-tracking-request@w3.org]
On Behalf Of Amy Colando (LCA)
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 11:34 PM
To: Karl Dubost; David Wainberg
Cc: public-tracking@w3.org
Subject: RE: Propose to drop from the strawman: ISSUE-93

+1

-----Original Message-----
From: public-tracking-request@w3.org [mailto:public-tracking-request@w3.org]
On Behalf Of Karl Dubost
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:14 PM
To: David Wainberg
Cc: public-tracking@w3.org
Subject: Re: Propose to drop from the strawman: ISSUE-93


Le 25 oct. 2011 à 17:17, David Wainberg a écrit :
> ISSUE-93: Should 1st parties be able to degrade a user experience or
charge money for content based on DNT (It appears in 6.1 of the Compliance
and Scope doc.)
> 
> This is well out of scope of this standard, and should be dropped from the
strawman document. The DNT standard should be limited to particular cases of
data collection and use. It's not the role of the standard to require
businesses to require or suggest broad changes to a company's business
practices (such as giving away content and services for free) that aren't
directly related to implementation of the standard and handling of the
relevant data.


Seconded.
That said, it is useful non normative comment for implementers.

-- 
Karl Dubost - http://dev.opera.com/
Developer Relations & Tools, Opera Software
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