Re: Meta Unspools Threads

út 11. 7. 2023 v 4:53 odesílatel Ben Savage <btsavage@meta.com> napsal:

> Hello everyone,
>
> My name is Ben Savage, and I'm Meta's AC Rep to the W3C. I have just
> joined the Social Web Incubator Community Group. This thread seems like a
> good opportunity to introduce myself =).
>
> I'm a software engineer, and I've spent the last 10 years at Meta.
>
> I've been involved in the W3C since 2019, where I've been working on
> privacy-enhancing technologies (PETs), and their application to
> advertising. I mainly participate in the "Private Advertising Technology
> Community Group", where I'm a co-author of the "Interoperable Private
> Attribution" (IPA) proposal that we've developed together with our friends
> at Mozilla.
>
> I'm a newb to the ActivityPub standard, but I'm excited to start attending
> the group's meetings, learning more, and hopefully contributing back to the
> community.
>
> I'm really excited that Meta plans to implement the ActivityPub standard,
> and federate with other instances. I'm really interested to see how this
> interoperable future plays out!
>
> According to that link shared earlier in the chain (
> https://www.quiverquant.com/threadstracker/) it seems like Threads is
> already over 100 M. Wow. That exceeded my wildest expectations! I agree
> that this seems like a significant event in the history of the fediverse.
>
> What can Meta do to support the fediverse? How can we ensure our entry to
> this ecosystem is a positive thing that helps grow the community? How can
> we support this standard? These are the questions in my mind, and I'm
> really keen to start discussing this with all of you.
>
> I do not see any upcoming events on the calendar - are there regular group
> calls? How does this group prefer to operate?
>
> I'm looking forward to getting to know all of you, and working together.
>

Hi Ben, welcome to the group!

Congratulations on creating such a successful app.

Having been involved with the w3c social web for over 15 years, I can say
that we've had many positive interactions with facebook/meta.

Facebook participated in the original Social Web XG (I think David Recordon
back then) and spoke about how they were using a social graph to innovate.
That was included in the final report.

I helped create the Solid (Social Linked Data) project which also works on
the principle of the social graph.  More recently I've been working on a
social graph in Nostr.  We had a use case "browsing the friendship graph"
in the Working Group, which we implemented in Solid.  Additionally when Tim
Berners-Lee visited facebook, he asked if you could implement the WebID
standard, giving back linked data and full schemas via content
negotiation.  Within a few weeks facebook delivered this, and not only
that, it was one of the highest quality standards implementations I've ever
seen.  A remarkable achievement.

I'm a huge believer in the competitive advantage of a social web based on a
social graph, and adding on extra functionality such as the (federated)
sharing of activities.  To my mind, and others may feel differently about
this, activities are just one part of functionality of facebook, and the
wider social web.  Namely the box you click on that says "Alice liked your
post".  I'm really looking forward to seeing if and how it will be possible
to add activity sharing to the Threads app in a federated way.

IMHO it will be fantastic to bring millions of new users on to a more open
web.

Looking forward to interacting!

Melvin


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> --Ben
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> *From:* Aaron Gray <aaronngray@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 10, 2023 11:04 PM
> *To:* Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Robert W. Gehl <rwg@yorku.ca>; public-swicg@w3.org <
> public-swicg@w3.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Meta Unspools Threads
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> On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 at 15: 12, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@ gmail.
> com> wrote: čt 6. 7. 2023 v 23: 48 odesílatel Melvin Carvalho
> <melvincarvalho@ gmail. com> napsal: čt 6. 7. 2023 v 13: 08 odesílatel
> Robert W. Gehl <rwg@ yorku. ca>
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> On Mon, 10 Jul 2023 at 15:12, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> čt 6. 7. 2023 v 23:48 odesílatel Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> napsal:
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> čt 6. 7. 2023 v 13:08 odesílatel Robert W. Gehl <rwg@yorku.ca> napsal:
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>  From what I understand, they don't support federation yet. It's a
> single node right now.
>
>
> Seems so.  Reports are that ActivityPub supportis planned.
>
> Up to 46 million users now, expected to reach a few hundred million this
> month, stats can be tracked here:
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> https://www.quiverquant.com/threadstracker/
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>
> Threads just became the "fastest growing app of all time".  I've had some
> feedback about whether or not this is significant in a decentralized
> system, which is a valid question.  Without making a value
>
> judgment, I would suggest that going from c. 1M users to C. 100M is a
> game-changing event.
>
>
> Probably not, I keep on going over to Instagram from it. Some of the most
> boring unorganized feeds ever.
>
> A.
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> "Instagram Threads hits 100 million users, becoming easily the fastest
> growing app ever"
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> HN thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36665481
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>
> - Rob
>
> On 2023-07-06 04:53, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> > Some stats:
> >
> > Zuckerberg said on Thursday that the app had attracted 10 million
> > signups in just seven hours, sharing an emoji that suggested that his
> > mind had been blown by the reception
> >
> > https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/06/threads-delete-profile-instagram-meta/
> > <
> https://techcrunch.com/2023/07/06/threads-delete-profile-instagram-meta/>
> >
> > So, it's possibly the majority of the fediverse now.  Has anyone tried
> > federating with it?
> >
> > čt 6. 7. 2023 v 10:38 odesílatel Melvin Carvalho
> > <melvincarvalho@gmail.com <mailto:melvincarvalho@gmail.com>> napsal:
> >
> >     Seems a significant development
> >
> >     https://www.platformer.news/p/meta-unspools-threads
> >     <https://www.platformer.news/p/meta-unspools-threads>
> >
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> University
> Fulbright Scholar, University of Calgary
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