- From: Wing C Yung <wingyung@us.ibm.com>
- Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:52:23 -0500
- To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
- Cc: john.breslin@deri.org, public-sweo-ig@w3.org, public-sweo-ig-request@w3.org
I think that it's great that we have some SIOC producers; it's definitely
the first step towards *enabling* a potential "killer app" for the Semantic
Web. Having the data as RDF is necessary but not sufficient to convince
people of the benefits. The "killer app" is going to be a consumer of data
(like a SW-enabled feed aggregator/reader that does something compelling
with the data), not the data itself. Right now, are there other consumers
besides the one [1] listed on the SIOC page?
[1]
http://sparql.captsolo.net/browser/browser.py?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.johnbreslin.com%2Fblog%2Findex.php%3Fsioc_type%3Dpost%26sioc_id%3D462
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Re: What is the SIOC-o-sphere?
12/21/2006 11:27
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John Breslin wrote:
>
> Hi all -
>
> I just want to give an introduction to new list members regarding
> SIOC, the (Semantically-Interconnected Online Communities) project
> [1], lead by DERI at NUI Galway. I know Uldis has given a brief
> overview in his hello message... Basically, what SIOC is is an open
> specification for describing communities using online discussion
> forums / blogs / mailing lists / etc., leading to what some may term
> distributed conversations and channels (see discussion clouds picture
> at [2]). At the moment, online communities are islands that are not
> well interlinked, and the SIOC ontology has been proposed to not only
> link these communities but to leverage data in ways that were
> previously unknown.
>
> We know that Web 2.0 applications such as blogging and wikis have
> become very popular and at the same time have created an
> interconnected information space (through the “blogosphere” and
> inter-wiki links). Also, the Semantic Web is increasingly aiming at
> applications areas, and can help address certain boundaries that Web
> 2.0 applications are experiencing in terms of information
> dissemination and automation (e.g. semantic blogging, semantic wikis,
> etc.). So far, it is probably fair to say that the Semantic Web effort
> has been mainly towards producing standards and recommendations that
> will interlink applications, and Web 2.0 was about providing
> collaborative user applications - these are not mutually exclusive as
> many Web 2.0 applications can and will use Semantic Web technologies
> to great benefit (see our recent tutorial on Semantic Web 2.0 at [3]).
>
> If the blogosphere is the interconnected world of weblogs, and the
> boardscape is the world of message boards, the "SIOC-o-sphere" can be
> thought of as the combination of these and other spheres of discussion
> (Usenet, mailing lists, image gallery discussions, event chats, etc.).
> Just as the blogosphere has become a proving ground for Web 2.0
> applications, we envisage the siocosphere and its interconnected
> representation of all Web-based community discussions as being a
> bridge from Web 2.0 to the Semantic Web.
>
> The initial version of our SIOC specification was released some time
> ago. It can be used in conjunction with other RDF formats such as FOAF
> and SKOS (see the picture of overlaps at [4]). In terms of producing
> metadata, we've started with SIOC exporters for open-source discussion
> systems such as WordPress, Drupal, dotClear, and more are on the way
> (I started the phpBB one last week). You can also represent mailing
> lists in SIOC using the SWAML system.
>
> While there are many (useful) classes and properties in SIOC, it can
> essentially be boiled down to: Users create Posts that are contained
> in Forums that are hosted on Sites, e.g.
>
> Site -> host_of -> Forum -> container_of -> Post -> has_creator -> User
>
> Posts have reply Posts, and Forums can be parents of other Forums.
>
> I know it's difficult to get a good feeling for what SIOC is from a
> mail message, but we have some presentations [5] in PDF or video
> format that may help explain things graphically, and I am looking
> forward to your inputs and of course continued SIOC interest via SWEO.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John.
> --
> [1] http://sioc-project.org/
> [2] http://sioc-project.org/node/139
> [3] http://sw.deri.org/~jbreslin/presentations/20060526a.pdf
> [4] http://sioc-project.org/node/158
> [5] http://sioc-project.org/presentations
>
John,
So in a nutshell we have a potential "Killer Demonstration" for the
Blogosphere (which is the Web 2.0 epicenter) that simplifies
comprehension of the fundamental Semantic Web value proposition: a Web
of Data that's oriented towards "Meshing" and "Joining". A complimentary
enhancement to the "Web of Services" (what Web 2.0 really is all about)
that emits data that can only be mashed due to lack of context and meaning.
A simple example:
Wouldn't it be nice to unequivocally state to typical Web 2.0 thought
leaders and the broader Web community [1][2][3] that by having Web
1.0/2.0 presence you also have Semantic Web presence? That the minimum
requirement is simply the existence of a Feed (RSS 1.0, RSS 2.0, or
Atom) that syndicates your content?.
Links:
1. http://demo.openlinksw.com/tutorial/xml/xq_s_4/gnomedexers.vsp
(Gnomedex 2005 attendees)
2. http://demo.openlinksw.com/tutorial/xml/xq_s_4/techcrunch.vsp
(TechCrunch meetup)
3. http://demo.openlinksw.com/tutorial/xml/xq_s_4/web2005.vsp (2005 Web
2.0 Speakers)
4. http://demo.openlinksw.com/tutorial/xml/xq_s_4/blog100.vsp
(Blogosphere 100)
Note: Click on the SIOC gems for the RDF/XML serialization of the SIOC
Instance Data.
--
Regards,
Kingsley Idehen Weblog:
http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
President & CEO
OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
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