- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:02:25 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The minutes of the 19-May SemWeb Deployment Working Group telecon
are now available as
http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html
Thanks to Antoine for scribing the end of the meeting and for doing
the cleanup of these minutes.
A text snapshot follows.
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SemWeb Deployment Working Group
19 May 2009
[2]Agenda
[2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009May/0064.html
See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2009-05-05
[3] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-irc
[4] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html
Attendees
Present
Ralph Swick, Sean Bechhofer, Jon Phipps, Antoine Isaac, Ed
Summers, Guus _Schreiber
Regrets
Tom Baker, Diego Berrueta
Chair
Guus
Scribe
Ralph, Antoine
Contents
* Topics
1. Admin
2. SKOS
3. Transition Request
* Summary of Action Items
_____________________________________________________
Admin
RESOLVED to accept minutes of the last telecon
[10]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html
[10] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html
RESOLVED next telecon 2 June
SKOS
-> [11]editor's draft of SKOS Reference
[11] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/
(currently $Revision 1.8$)
Sean: editorial tweaks discussed in mail are almost complete
... so nearly done w/Reference
ACTION: [DONE] SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for
SKOS Reference [recorded in
[12]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[recorded in
[13]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[13] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04
ACTION: [DONE] SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for
SKOS Reference [recorded in
[14]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[14] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04
Guus: issue-214 still open
Antoine: That doesn't really concern SKOS; it's about RDFa
Ed: that was my feeling as well
-> [15]issue 214
[15] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/214
Ed: DanBri's comment was about something in loc.gov
Ralph: is DanBri citing something in one of our documents?
Guus: no, an LC document
Antoine: so change the tracker product to RDFa
Ralph: but if this is going to be a frequent mistake maybe we should
consider adding some advice
Guus: that could go in the Primer
Ralph: yes
Guus: so we conclude this does not affect the Reference?
<Antoine> +1
[no objections]
<seanb> +1
<edsu> +1
Guus: therefore no outstanding CR comments
Sean: regarding URIs in Appendix C
... there are references to namespace documents
... which URIs should I use?
Guus: we'll take that up in a moment
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to raise issue-214 with rdfa tf [recorded
in [16]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[16] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01
-> [17]SKOS Primer Editor's Draft
[17] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/primer/primer-20090427.html
Ralph: I presumed we'd publish the Primer together with the
Reference Proposed Rec
Guus: yes
-- UCR document
Antoine: I added some historical notes
... and added links to the issue tracker
Guus: I suggest publishing the Use Cases as a Group Note at the same
time as the Proposed Rec
<Antoine>
[18]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html
[18] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html
Antoine: I added cross-references to the UCR:
[19]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html#Ca
ndidate
[19] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html#Candidate
PROPOSED: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and Requirements as a Group
Note at the time the final SKOS Recommendation is published
<Ralph> +1
RESOLUTION: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and Requirements as a
Group Note at the time the final SKOS Recommendation is published
-- Namespace document
Guus: what's the state of the labels in the namespace document?
Sean: discussion on the list
... there's an HTML variant and an RDF/XML variant
... the HTML variant had a lot of additional text which I've removed
and put in an appendix
... so each variant only describes itself
... I believe the content is now OK
... the SKOS namespace document is served via content negotiation
... what URIs should I use for the OWL DL subset and the SKOS XL
RDF/XML variant?
<seanb> [20]Appendix C
[20] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/#namespace-documents
Guus: the reference to [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl in C.4.
looks correct
[21] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl
Ralph: we've used that URI before, so OK to keep using it
Sean: what URI to use for the OWL 1 DL subset?
Guus: have we published it before?
Sean: no, but it is in the directory
Ralph: there's no particular reason why we could not use the
2008/04/skos/ space
Guus: and this is the DL version of the schema in 2004/02/skos
Sean: what should we call it?
<Ralph> skos-owl1-dl.rdf ?
Guus: fine with me
<seanb> I meant 2004/02/skos/skos-owl1-dl.rdf ??
<Guus> 2004/02/skos/owl1-dl.rdf ?
Sean: skos/owl1-dl.rdf is fine with me
Ralph: ok with me too
... it's a new RDF namespace so we'll need Director's approval
Guus: send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review
ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for
review [recorded in
[22]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
-- Implementation Report
Guus: looking at the issues list, of 29 issues 27 refer to
implementations
... so I think there's ample evidence that the SKOS specification is
being implemented
Sean: I'm slightly worried that the capture of the various
constructs used in each vocabulary is not exhaustive
... the reports were not necessarily completely explicit
... in particular, I'm not sure that ordered collections have been
implemented
... but 2 implementations do claim to use -xl
Guus: I couldn't find any details on the -xl implementations
Antoine: we do have one vocabulary that would benefit from label
relations but we've not yet done it
Sean: I have an email from Simon Jupp that I could ask him to send
to the list
Guus: -xl is an extension anyway
... it's clear that the main part of SKOS, in particular the mapping
relations, is heavily used
... I don't feel the Group needs to put enormous effort into a
systematic analysis
... with 27 implementations I feel we can say we're done
Sean: I'm happy to go with that
Guus: I'm happy to write some text with my findings for the
transition request
Sean: can I consider this implementation report to be completed
then?
... I'll paste the two tables into the HTML document
->
[23]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementa
tion.html implementation report generated from the issues tracker
[23] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html
Sean: there are two additional tables generated from a Google
spreadsheet
<seanb> [24]google doc
[24] http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rmQPwhMMWXxY62FinzE44Eg
Sean: should I paste the spreadsheet table into the implementation
report?
Guus: yes
Ralph: yes
Sean: it's a hassle to do that paste so I'd like to do it only once
Guus: how about an image paste?
Ralph: no, that would be frowned on
Guus: I suggest freezing it now
... the implementation report does not have to be exhaustive
Sean: OK, I'll freeze and paste later today
ACTION: [DONE] Sean to look for SKOS constructs not used by current
implementations [recorded in
[25]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[25] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04
ACTION: [CONTINUES] Sean to complete implementation report by 19th
[recorded in
[26]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[26] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05
Transition Request
Guus: we've met the CR exit criteria
PROPOSED to request the Director to advance the SKOS Reference to
Proposed Recommendation
[27]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ with
Appendix C edits
[27] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/
<Ralph> +1
[Ralph has to depart for another call]
RESOLVED to request the Director to advance the SKOS Reference to
Proposed Recommendation
[28]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ with
Appendix C edits
[28] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/
ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in
[29]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07]
Guus: once PR is requested, the WG gets out of the loop, and
advisory committee vote, and the director decides
Guus: meeting is adjourned
ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy
specs [recorded in
[30]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[CONTINUES]
[30] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11
ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group
Note [recorded in
[31]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[CONTINUES]
[31] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02
ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in
[32]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
[CONTINUES]
[32] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15
ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes
implementations] [recorded in
[33]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[CONTINUES]
[33] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20
ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the
metadata note [recorded in
[34]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[CONTINUES]
[34] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in
[35]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07]
[NEW] ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready
for review [recorded in
[36]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition
to Group Note [recorded in
[37]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of
the metadata note [recorded in
[38]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for
legacy specs [recorded in
[39]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with rdfa tf [recorded in
[40]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft
[recorded in
[41]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15]
[PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of
Recipes implementations] [recorded in
[42]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20]
[PENDING] ACTION: Sean to complete implementation report by 19th
[recorded in
[43]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05]
[37] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02
[38] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03
[39] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11
[40] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01
[41] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15
[42] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20
[43] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05
[DONE] ACTION: Sean to look for SKOS constructs not used by current
implementations [recorded in
[44]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for
SKOS Reference [recorded in
[45]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04]
[DONE] ACTION: SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for
SKOS Reference [recorded in
[46]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action01]
[44] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04
[45] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04
[End of minutes]
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