- From: Ralph R. Swick <swick@w3.org>
- Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 22:02:25 -0400
- To: public-swd-wg@w3.org
The minutes of the 19-May SemWeb Deployment Working Group telecon are now available as http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html Thanks to Antoine for scribing the end of the meeting and for doing the cleanup of these minutes. A text snapshot follows. ---- SemWeb Deployment Working Group 19 May 2009 [2]Agenda [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2009May/0064.html See also: [3]IRC log, previous [4]2009-05-05 [3] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-irc [4] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html Attendees Present Ralph Swick, Sean Bechhofer, Jon Phipps, Antoine Isaac, Ed Summers, Guus _Schreiber Regrets Tom Baker, Diego Berrueta Chair Guus Scribe Ralph, Antoine Contents * Topics 1. Admin 2. SKOS 3. Transition Request * Summary of Action Items _____________________________________________________ Admin RESOLVED to accept minutes of the last telecon [10]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html [10] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html RESOLVED next telecon 2 June SKOS -> [11]editor's draft of SKOS Reference [11] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ (currently $Revision 1.8$) Sean: editorial tweaks discussed in mail are almost complete ... so nearly done w/Reference ACTION: [DONE] SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in [12]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action01] [recorded in [13]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [13] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04 ACTION: [DONE] SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in [14]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [14] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04 Guus: issue-214 still open Antoine: That doesn't really concern SKOS; it's about RDFa Ed: that was my feeling as well -> [15]issue 214 [15] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/track/issues/214 Ed: DanBri's comment was about something in loc.gov Ralph: is DanBri citing something in one of our documents? Guus: no, an LC document Antoine: so change the tracker product to RDFa Ralph: but if this is going to be a frequent mistake maybe we should consider adding some advice Guus: that could go in the Primer Ralph: yes Guus: so we conclude this does not affect the Reference? <Antoine> +1 [no objections] <seanb> +1 <edsu> +1 Guus: therefore no outstanding CR comments Sean: regarding URIs in Appendix C ... there are references to namespace documents ... which URIs should I use? Guus: we'll take that up in a moment ACTION: [CONTINUES] Ralph to raise issue-214 with rdfa tf [recorded in [16]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [16] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01 -> [17]SKOS Primer Editor's Draft [17] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/primer/primer-20090427.html Ralph: I presumed we'd publish the Primer together with the Reference Proposed Rec Guus: yes -- UCR document Antoine: I added some historical notes ... and added links to the issue tracker Guus: I suggest publishing the Use Cases as a Group Note at the same time as the Proposed Rec <Antoine> [18]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html [18] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html Antoine: I added cross-references to the UCR: [19]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html#Ca ndidate [19] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/usecases/ucr-20090428.html#Candidate PROPOSED: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and Requirements as a Group Note at the time the final SKOS Recommendation is published <Ralph> +1 RESOLUTION: Publish revised SKOS Use Cases and Requirements as a Group Note at the time the final SKOS Recommendation is published -- Namespace document Guus: what's the state of the labels in the namespace document? Sean: discussion on the list ... there's an HTML variant and an RDF/XML variant ... the HTML variant had a lot of additional text which I've removed and put in an appendix ... so each variant only describes itself ... I believe the content is now OK ... the SKOS namespace document is served via content negotiation ... what URIs should I use for the OWL DL subset and the SKOS XL RDF/XML variant? <seanb> [20]Appendix C [20] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/#namespace-documents Guus: the reference to [21]http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl in C.4. looks correct [21] http://www.w3.org/2008/05/skos-xl Ralph: we've used that URI before, so OK to keep using it Sean: what URI to use for the OWL 1 DL subset? Guus: have we published it before? Sean: no, but it is in the directory Ralph: there's no particular reason why we could not use the 2008/04/skos/ space Guus: and this is the DL version of the schema in 2004/02/skos Sean: what should we call it? <Ralph> skos-owl1-dl.rdf ? Guus: fine with me <seanb> I meant 2004/02/skos/skos-owl1-dl.rdf ?? <Guus> 2004/02/skos/owl1-dl.rdf ? Sean: skos/owl1-dl.rdf is fine with me Ralph: ok with me too ... it's a new RDF namespace so we'll need Director's approval Guus: send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review [recorded in [22]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04] -- Implementation Report Guus: looking at the issues list, of 29 issues 27 refer to implementations ... so I think there's ample evidence that the SKOS specification is being implemented Sean: I'm slightly worried that the capture of the various constructs used in each vocabulary is not exhaustive ... the reports were not necessarily completely explicit ... in particular, I'm not sure that ordered collections have been implemented ... but 2 implementations do claim to use -xl Guus: I couldn't find any details on the -xl implementations Antoine: we do have one vocabulary that would benefit from label relations but we've not yet done it Sean: I have an email from Simon Jupp that I could ask him to send to the list Guus: -xl is an extension anyway ... it's clear that the main part of SKOS, in particular the mapping relations, is heavily used ... I don't feel the Group needs to put enormous effort into a systematic analysis ... with 27 implementations I feel we can say we're done Sean: I'm happy to go with that Guus: I'm happy to write some text with my findings for the transition request Sean: can I consider this implementation report to be completed then? ... I'll paste the two tables into the HTML document -> [23]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementa tion.html implementation report generated from the issues tracker [23] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/implementation.html Sean: there are two additional tables generated from a Google spreadsheet <seanb> [24]google doc [24] http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rmQPwhMMWXxY62FinzE44Eg Sean: should I paste the spreadsheet table into the implementation report? Guus: yes Ralph: yes Sean: it's a hassle to do that paste so I'd like to do it only once Guus: how about an image paste? Ralph: no, that would be frowned on Guus: I suggest freezing it now ... the implementation report does not have to be exhaustive Sean: OK, I'll freeze and paste later today ACTION: [DONE] Sean to look for SKOS constructs not used by current implementations [recorded in [25]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04] [25] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04 ACTION: [CONTINUES] Sean to complete implementation report by 19th [recorded in [26]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05] [26] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05 Transition Request Guus: we've met the CR exit criteria PROPOSED to request the Director to advance the SKOS Reference to Proposed Recommendation [27]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ with Appendix C edits [27] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ <Ralph> +1 [Ralph has to depart for another call] RESOLVED to request the Director to advance the SKOS Reference to Proposed Recommendation [28]http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ with Appendix C edits [28] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/SKOS/reference/20090315/ ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in [29]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07] Guus: once PR is requested, the WG gets out of the loop, and advisory committee vote, and the director decides Guus: meeting is adjourned ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in [30]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11] [CONTINUES] [30] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11 ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in [31]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [CONTINUES] [31] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02 ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in [32]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] [CONTINUES] [32] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15 ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in [33]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [CONTINUES] [33] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20 ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in [34]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] [CONTINUES] [34] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03 Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Guus to prepare the request for PR [recorded in [35]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action07] [NEW] ACTION: Sean send notice to the list when Appendix C is ready for review [recorded in [36]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action04] [PENDING] ACTION: Ben review RDFa Use Cases and propose transition to Group Note [recorded in [37]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph post his comments on the editor's draft of the metadata note [recorded in [38]http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph publish Antoine's new intermediate pages for legacy specs [recorded in [39]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to raise issue-214 with rdfa tf [recorded in [40]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph to review the revised Recipes draft [recorded in [41]http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15] [PENDING] ACTION: Ralph/Diego to work on Wordnet implementation [of Recipes implementations] [recorded in [42]http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20] [PENDING] ACTION: Sean to complete implementation report by 19th [recorded in [43]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05] [37] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/30-swd-minutes.html#action02 [38] http://www.w3.org/2008/11/25-swd-minutes.html#action03 [39] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action11 [40] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action01 [41] http://www.w3.org/2008/12/02-swd-minutes.html#action15 [42] http://www.w3.org/2008/01/22-swd-minutes.html#action20 [43] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action05 [DONE] ACTION: Sean to look for SKOS constructs not used by current implementations [recorded in [44]http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in [45]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04] [DONE] ACTION: SKOS editors to draft acknowledgements section for SKOS Reference [recorded in [46]http://www.w3.org/2009/05/19-swd-minutes.html#action01] [44] http://www.w3.org/2009/04/21-swd-minutes.html#action04 [45] http://www.w3.org/2009/05/05-swd-minutes.html#action04 [End of minutes] _____________________________________________________ Minutes formatted by David Booth's 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