- From: Thomas Baker <thomas.baker@bi.fhg.de>
- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:23:28 +0100
- To: SW Best Practices <public-swbp-wg@w3.org>
SemWeb Best Practices & Deployment
10 Feb 2005
Agenda:
-- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0037.html
See also IRC log:
-- http://www.w3.org/2005/02/10-swbp-irc
Attendees
Present
Phil Tetlow, Libby Miller, Ralph Swick, Chris Welty, Evan Wallace,
Andreas Harth, Alistair Miles, Fabien Gandon, Elisa Kendall,
Tom Baker, Gavin McKenzie
Regrets
DanBri, Benjamin, Deb, Natasha, Steve, Gary, Brian, Jeremy
Chair
Ralph
Scribe
TomB
Contents
* Topics
1. Admin
2. Liaison
3. TF Updates
* Summary of Action Items
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1. ADMIN
Previous meeting notes ACCEPTED:
[9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Jan/0150.html
Next telecon will be 24 February.
ACTION: guus ask steven pemberton for meeting re XHTML2 meta module [DONE]
2. LIAISON
2.1 OMG: ODM review
Other non-TF-related actions:
ACTION: jeremy ask natasha to review page 68/69 of ODM document [DONE]
Evan: Natasha did look at those pages. Natasha, Elisa, and I
talked about the comments and agreed the section did have some
problems. The section may be reworked.
ACTION: Guus to review OWL metamodel [CONTINUED]
ACTION: Deb to go over OWL metamodel and provide a summary [CONTINUED]
Elisa: Deb and I plan to do some of this together next week.
2.2: DAWG: UNSAID and SOUCE issues
ACTION: Chris to provide input to DAWG based on deployment experience.
3. TF UPDATES
3.10 SE
Phil: had 2nd SE telecon last week [11]. Good news,
progress on production of notes. Plan to get 3 short
notes out soon. Hopefully, at least one visible for F2F.
Need advice on correct format and procedure. Schedule:
informally agreed to have material for next Tue (so ready
for next telecon). Note on identifier schemes will take
another week or two - maybe in week before F2F?
ACTION: Ralph to provide SE TF advice on format and
procedure.
ACTION: Ralph to make a "List of WG documents" more visible
from home page [DONE]
3.1 PORT TF (Alistair)
Alistair proposes to publish SKOS Core Guide as Working
Draft. TomB had extensive review comments, which were
discussed on the thesaurus review list; all comments
addressed, draft looks nice. Mark also supportive.
Al: still need clear policy statements with regard to
ownership of the vocabulary - but these will go into the
SKOS Core Spec (not the Guide).
Meeting approved request to publish SKOS Core Guide
as a First Working Draft.
ACTION: Al to run pubrules checker on SKOS Core Guide ; Ralph will help.
Note: see link to Editors home page -
has links to publication rules.
Includes checklist from webmasters.
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/
ACTION: Ralph to link SKOS Core Guide from home page more prominently.
The third document (Quick Guide) - Tom and Mark will look
at it this week.
In next telecon: SKOS Core Spec and Quick Guide.
3.2 OEP (Chris)
ACTION: Ralph review next version of n-ary relations when it is ready [CONTINUES]
n-ary relations draft not yet ready; maybe one week from now.
OEP telecon next week; will report back to group; then Ralph reviews.
David has been unavailable this past month.
Jerry Hobbs had agreed to come on as invited expert for
Time ontology, but stalled. Ralph: ISI is a W3C Member,
so Jerry should simply be appointed by Robert MacGregor,
ISI's AC Rep.
Last Thu telecon: current working draft (classes as values)
and representing specified values in OWL. Decided all
notes needed stand'n on how we use vocabulary: we agreed
we need a glossary. Terms are overloaded - must be clear.
Guus felt no rush to bring to "note" status, so hold off
a bit - should decide by plenary.
Ralph: These have already been reviewed as working drafts.
If not changed in substantial way, no need for further
review Could publish further draft with cleaned-up wording.
If you create that editors draft, then put qst to group "we
are ready to declare this final". Aim at asking this at F2F.
N-ary relations doc still needs work. Lots of interest
from outside in this. Idea of capturing n-ary relations
in languages that do not support it natively is coming up
in lots of places. Terminology in that doc is particularly
problematic - that was the motivation for the glossary.
Another idea in last telecon: all notes have lots of
examples Maybe publish the example ontologies themselves.
Good idea? What is the procedure?
Ralph: good idea. Need NS names, put OWL files there.
Certainly for OWL Time work - need stable place. And for
proposed vocab on n-ary relations. w3.org should be
usable. Should have a status comment of some sort:
"These are examples". To do this, write something into
the working draft. Part of the review process will be
to approve the names chosen. Suggest picking example
namespace names in http://www.w3.org/2005/02/.
3.3 WordNet (Aldo)
Aldo sent status message two days ago:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0029.html
3.4 XML schema datatypes
ACTION: Jeremy to give other groups a heads-up [COMPLETED].
Came up at SW Coord group meeting last week - good!
For F2F, expect TF will want to propose publication of that.
In J's announcement to WGs, says we will be discussing
moving to pubn at F2F.
Need second reviewer?
3.5 Vocabulary Management (TomB)
TomB has all the input he needs now except for FOAF.
Wiki document is frozen; TomB is turning into fuller draft.
Was very helpful to have participated in the PORT document
review - we were able to clarify a number of issues that
will be taken up in the VM note. Alistair has agreed
to help. Target of 24 Feb to have a readable draft.
3.6 RDF-in-HTML
This is a difficult time-slot for Ben. TF tried to
schedule telecon for earlier this week, but not possible.
No response yet from HTML working group; will have joint
meeting with them in Tech Plenary week.
3.7 ADTF Libby
Question to this group: should people be allowed to put
up information about an application that is not accessible
online?
Ralph and Libby prefer highlighting code that is available
online and that people can use; show application domains
where SW is being used and help new adopters get going.
Libby will start a discussion on this. Maybe just
keep things up there that are (still) working? Or save
screen-shots of things that once worked? Maybe keep links,
with note that "application is no longer there"?
ACTION: Fabian noticed broken links - Libby will check.
3.8 RDFTM - Topic Maps
Steve Pepper sent status report [14]. They hope to have
draft ready for F2F
ACTION: guus send msg to RDFTM reminding them to use list for TF work [CONTINUED]
3.9 Tutorial page
Nobody available on call.
4. AOB
Discussion of starting to prepare agenda for F2F [15] --
timings of specific topics because some people will want
to call in. HTML working group meeting on Thu afternoon.
Another item: suggestion that overview of ODM be part of
one of these meetings since this working group is looking
at parts of ODM. Ralph points out that SW IG might have
broader audience as well. DanBri is SW IG chair - knows
of potential agenda request.
R. had asked if Evan could give overview - which meeting
do this in? Lisa might be able to do it Thu-Fri. Or at
least coordinate on slides. Evan can represent team.
Mon-Tue might be larger audience - original request was
for ODM overview. EM asked to hear about more deployment
experience. Could be part of overview. Overview could
be in IG meeting; preserving BPD WG time for more detailed
issues.
All: Please register intent to come to F2F... see you on Feb 24...!
Summary of Action Items
[DONE] ACTION: Jeremy to give other groups a heads-up.
[DONE] ACTION: guus ask steven pemberton for meeting re XHTML2 meta
[DONE] ACTION: guus ask steven pemberton for meeting re XHTML2 meta module
[DONE] ACTION: jeremy ask natasha to review page 68/69 of ODM document
[CONTINUED] ACTION: Deb to go over OWL metamodel and provide a summary
[CONTINUED] ACTION: Guus to review OWL metamodel
[CONTINUED] ACTION: Ralph to review next version of n-ary relations when ready
[CONTINUED] ACTION: Guus send msg to RDFTM reminding them to use list for TF work
[NEW] ACTION: Al to run pubrules checker on SKOS Core Guide ; Ralph will help.
[NEW] ACTION: Chris to provide input to DAWG based on deployment experience.
[NEW] ACTION: Fabian noticed broken links - Libby will check.
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph make "List of WG documents" more visible
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph to link SKOS Core Guide from home page more prominently.
[NEW] ACTION: Ralph to provide SE TF advice on format and procedure
[End of minutes]
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References
1. http://www.w3.org/
9. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Jan/0150.html
10. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Jan/0150.html
11. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0002.html
12. http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/
13. http://www.w3.org/2005/02/
14. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0046.html
15. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swbp-wg/2005Feb/0053.html
16. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/~checkout~/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
17. http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/2002/scribe/
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