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From: Patrick Dengler <patd@microsoft.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:23:43 +0000
To: "public-svg-wg@w3.org" <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
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Modified F2F Wiki:

Well, I feel a little better:

There are actually 3 hotels by Marriott all of the same name.


I updated the link on the Wiki.  Anthony, can you update your google maps links?

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From: public-svg-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-svg-wg-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Erik Dahlstrom
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Subject: Minutes SVG WG telcon April 29, 2010

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       [1] http://www.w3.org/

                                - DRAFT -

                    SVG Working Group Teleconference

29 Apr 2010



    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2010/04/29-svg-irc


           ed, jwatt, [IPcaller], anthony, [Microsoft]




      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]F2F meeting
          2. [6]1.1F2 updates
          3. [7]Removing paragraph about calcmode=paced for
          4. [8]fonts-elem-05
          5. [9]discussion about use
          6. [10]public-fx
      * [11]Summary of Action Items

    <trackbot> Date: 29 April 2010

    <jwatt> Zakim: ?? is me

    <jwatt> Zakim: ??P25 is me

    <jwatt> yeah, like the black death


      [12] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Brussels%2C_Belgium_F2F

F2F meeting

    <pdengler> pdengler: Address for EBC Brussels

    <pdengler> Avenue des Nerviens 85

    <pdengler> 1040 Brussels



    <pdengler> pdengler:


    <pdengler> Hotel for the 24th and June 1st :


    <pdengler> Rue Auguste Orts 3-7/Grand Place

    <pdengler> Brussels, 1000 Belgium

    Ok, wikipage updated to say 24 May - 1 June 2010

    <pdengler> Rue Du Parnasse 19, Brussels 1050 BE


      [16] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Brussels

    <anthony> Ortsstraat 1 Auguste 1000 Brussel, Belgium


      [17] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Brussels

    <scribe> Agenda:


1.1F2 updates

    ED: have done changes to the testsuite, no spec updates
    ... saw CL did some checkins on funciri syntax
    ... asks for moving the deadline

    PD: that would be good

    ED: agreed
    ... move deadline one week ahead, May 7

Removing paragraph about calcmode=paced for animateTransform

    AG: wasn't that brought up by someone else too?
    ... I can do that

    <scribe> ACTION: AG to remove the paragraph mentioned in
    [19]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html in
    SVG 1.1F2 [recorded in

      [19] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2777 - Remove the paragraph mentioned in
    [21]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html in
    SVG 1.1F2 [on Anthony Grasso - due 2010-05-06].

      [21] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html



      [22] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0147.html

    ED: I think we should backport the test from 1.2T, since the 1.1
    test is rather pointless (doesn't test what it says it's testing)

    <scribe> ACTION: ed to backport fonts-elem-05-t.svg from 1.2T to
    1.1F2 [recorded in

    <trackbot> Created ACTION-2778 - Backport fonts-elem-05-t.svg from
    1.2T to 1.1F2 [on Erik Dahlström - due 2010-05-06].

    <pdengler> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>

    <pdengler> <!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD SVG 1.0//EN"

      [24] http://www.w3.org/TR/2001/REC-SVG-20010904/DTD/svg10.dtd

    <pdengler> <svg xmlns:xlink="[25]http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink"
    xmlns="[26]http://www.w3.org/2000/svg" width="12.5in"
    height="7.625in" viewBox="0 0 900 549" xml:space="preserve"
    color-interpolation-filters="sRGB" class="st26">

      [25] http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink
      [26] http://www.w3.org/2000/svg

    <pdengler> <style type="text/css">

    <pdengler> rect:hover {fill: yellow}

discussion about use

    <pdengler> </style>

    <pdengler> <g id="blueRect" >

    <pdengler> <rect x="18" y="68" width="261" height="81"
    class="blueStyle" />

    <pdengler> </g>

    <pdengler> <use xlink:href="#blueRect" x="0 " y="100" />

    <pdengler> </svg>

    PD: in opera all rects turn yellow when hovering the rect
    ... in webkit if you hover the first rect it turns yellow, if you
    hover the second nothing happens
    ... in firefox if you hover over a rect it turns yellow regardless
    of it's a use or not
    ... i think firefox does it right, but IE have it implemented like
    webkit now, doens't feel right


      [27] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/ua-tests/

    ED: do you expect all the pseudoclasses work the same way?
    ... or just the :hover one

    PD: all of them as if the elements were cloned

    JW: if I have external resources then probably the style doesn't
    make sense to apply to those <use>'s
    ... depends on the person's usecase

    PD: what would you expect to happen in such a scenario? (the library

    JW: wouldn't want the style to apply to the library
    ... the inline case is probably more common

    ED: would like more tests regarding <use>, does microsoft have more
    tests to contribute in this area?

    PD: will ask

    ED: would be interested in seeing if there are differences between
    pseudoclass selectors and normal selectors on shadowtrees


    ED: since the publicfx telcon moved the timeslot let's cancel the
    svgwg monday telcon

Summary of Action Items

    [NEW] ACTION: AG to remove the paragraph mentioned in
    [28]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html in
    SVG 1.1F2 [recorded in
    [NEW] ACTION: ed to backport fonts-elem-05-t.svg from 1.2T to 1.1F2
    [recorded in

      [28] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2010Apr/0141.html

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Erik Dahlstrom, Core Technology Developer, Opera Software
Co-Chair, W3C SVG Working Group
Personal blog: http://my.opera.com/macdev_ed
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