- From: Niklas Hagelroth <niklas.hagelroth@ikivo.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:47:28 +0200
- To: "Chris Lilley" <chris@w3.org>, <public-svg-wg@w3.org>
Sorry, I must have missed today's meeting. I thought it was supposed to start 13:30 W. Europe Time. What is the time for Tuesday meetings? Cheers, Niklas > -----Original Message----- > From: public-svg-wg-request@w3.org [mailto:public-svg-wg-request@w3.org] > On Behalf Of Chris Lilley > Sent: den 9 september 2008 14:12 > To: public-svg-wg@w3.org > Subject: Minutes, 9 Sept 2008 SVG WG telcon > > > Hello public-svg-wg, > > Minutes are here > http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html > > and below as text for tracker. > > SVG Working Group Teleconference > > 09 Sep 2008 > > [2]Agenda > > [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg- > wg/2008JulSep/0255.html > > See also: [3]IRC log > > [3] http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-irc > > Attendees > > Present > ed, anthony, ChrisL, Doug_Schepers > > Regrets > Chair > Erik > > Scribe > ChrisL > > Contents > > * [4]Topics > 1. [5]Publication schedule > 2. [6]Test suite > * [7]Summary of Action Items > _________________________________________________________ > > > > <trackbot> Date: 09 September 2008 > > <scribe> ScribeNick: ChrisL > > <ed> [8]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/2 > > [8] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/products/2 > > ED: looking over the open actions and issues > > DS: ACTION-2155 is done > > close ACTION-2155 > > <trackbot> ACTION-2155 Add the keyboard events from DOM 3 Events to > an SVGT12 appendix closed > > ED: ACTION-2159 had some mail recently about loadEnd > > DS: Those were not on list. Only WG members can post to the list. > liaisons whould crosspost to www-svg > > ED: Looks like loadEnd is being added, not defined when its > dispatched, before or after load. > > CL: Is there any downside to defining the order? > > ED: WebApps seems to want it before the load event. Need to check > current implementations > ... fine either way > ... progress event might define it differently, would be a problem > > CL: If there is a risk of conflict with an uncompleted spec, better > to defer to progress events > > ED: Agree > > <ed> > [9]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#events__ > ProgressEvent > > [9] > http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#events__ProgressE > vent > > Resolved: leave loadEnd dispach order undefined, add informative > link to Progress Events > > close ACTION-2159 > > <trackbot> ACTION-2159 Do progress event name change to Tiny 1.2 > closed > > ED: ACTION-2164 role attr > > ACTION-2164? > > <trackbot> ACTION-2164 -- Doug Schepers to add 'role' attribute (and > informative reference to XHTML Role attribute module) and to change > the content model of the title and desc elements to be text -- due > 2008-08-30 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> [10]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2164 > > [10] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2164 > > DS: Feedback is currently being intregrated. role is done, text for > title and desc is done, algorithm needs work > > ACTION-2174? > > <trackbot> ACTION-2174 -- Erik Dahlström to remove the 'this' > keyword binding in the 'handler' element, and investigate if the > execution of the handler content is actually like a Function object > or if the contents are put in the global scope -- due 2008-08-31 -- > OPEN > > <trackbot> [11]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2174 > > [11] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2174 > > DS: what about adding rel (and rev? but discouraged) for > microformats > ... would not hurt to add it > > ED: Just strings? > > DS; Only allowed on anchors (a elements) > > CL: Would add interop with microformats, but the microformat code > would still need to be told to look in SVG for microformats > > DS: AUs which already get rel and rev probably dont care on the > format, they just look for those attributes > > CL: Wonder if their code is depending on span (we have tspan) > > DS: Sloppy software will tolerate the attributes not being on a > given tag, just looking for attributes. > ... good point of convergence with HTML > ... might also help with RDFa > ... RDFa is less verbose, too, than RDF/XML > > CL: In favour of adding rel and rev > > ED: Impact on spec? > > DS: Same description as HTML 4 (or 5) and add example taking into > account microformats > > CL: IG might like to discuss microformats in SVG > > Resolved: Add rel and rev to the SVG a element > > CL: Since we have xlink:title and also the title element (for > machine readable content) so there isn't the overlap > > (discussion on hint element and aria roles) > > <scribe> ACTION: Doug to add rel and rev to the svg 'a' element > [recorded in > [12]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action01] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-2185 - Add rel and rev to the svg 'a' > element [on Doug Schepers - due 2008-09-16]. > > ACTION-2121? > > <trackbot> ACTION-2121 -- Chris Lilley to respond to Julien on > [13]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2008Jul/0151.html re > getURL -- due 2008-07-31 -- OPEN > > [13] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2008Jul/0151.html > > <trackbot> [14]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2121 > > [14] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2121 > > look here /SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#svg__SVGGlobal > > <ed> > [15]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#svg__SV > GGlobal > > [15] > http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/publish/svgudom.html#svg__SVGGlobal > > A.8.21 AsyncURLStatus > > compare with > [16]http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/#text-response-entity-body > > [16] http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/#text-response-entity-body > > ED: fine with a clarification as log as its in sync with XHR > > ACTION-2121: Change spec to clarify its not just text/*, not just > HTTP, and use the specified encoding > > <trackbot> ACTION-2121 Respond to Julien on > [17]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2008Jul/0151.html re > getURL notes added > > [17] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2008Jul/0151.html > > ED: Do the commit and we can discuss if its not right > > ACTION-2099? > > <trackbot> ACTION-2099 -- Chris Lilley to review the corrections to > the mistakes in the attribute index and report back -- due > 2008-07-22 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> [18]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2099 > > [18] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2099 > > ID is in twice, the Perl needs to be modified > > CL: I am happy t make the table of links to attr definitions, id > Anthony fixes the Perl > > ED: This can be done during last call > > <scribe> ACTION: Anthony revise tools/tables/maketables.pl to add > attribute definition links and fix duplicate id entry [recorded in > [19]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action02] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-2186 - Revise tools/tables/maketables.pl > to add attribute definition links and fix duplicate id entry [on > Anthony Grasso - due 2008-09-16]. > > close ACTION-2099 > > <trackbot> ACTION-2099 Review the corrections to the mistakes in the > attribute index and report back closed > > close ACTION-2174 > > <trackbot> ACTION-2174 Remove the 'this' keyword binding in the > 'handler' element, and investigate if the execution of the handler > content is actually like a Function object or if the contents are > put in the global scope closed > > ACTION-2174? > > <trackbot> ACTION-2174 -- Erik Dahlström to remove the 'this' > keyword binding in the 'handler' element, and investigate if the > execution of the handler content is actually like a Function object > or if the contents are put in the global scope -- due 2008-08-31 -- > CLOSED > > <trackbot> [20]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2174 > > [20] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2174 > > ED: More useful to keep the behaviour in the spec, ikivo implemented > per spec, so better to leave it as is > ... ACTION-2148 depends on HTML WG > > ACTION-2148? > > <trackbot> ACTION-2148 -- Doug Schepers to take up ISSUE-2031 with > the HTML WG -- due 2008-08-28 -- OPEN > > <trackbot> [21]http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2148 > > [21] http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/actions/2148 > > DS: Will talk to Hixie about this > > Publication schedule > > DS: On track for this friday publication. Please ensure actions > done. Jules confirmed Friday publication. 4 week last call. > ... moratorium before TPAC and also PLH said no way to get w3m > processing right before TPAC so he suggests it be discussed during > TPAC > ... Doug and Chris can do it in person that way, too > ... so publish after TPAC > ... for press activity, be aware that Thanksgiving in there. Ian > Jacobs, head of comms said that a press release is ok for Rec > ... press release expected to be helpful for implementors and users > ... will check with the JIS people > > AG: JIS contacted me before this telcon, happy with that schedule > and will do Japanese translation during November > > DS: Also contacting JSR-287 folks about this > > Test suite > > AG: Patches mostly complete > ... one more day for Andrew and I to complete > ... adressing issues on the wii as we go > ... comparing refs against opera, biftflash and batick. updating > patches as needed. > > <anthony> > [22]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-fonts-04-t.svg > > [22] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-fonts-04-t.svg > > AG: this test here has a problem > > <anthony> status="accepted" > > <anthony> approved="no" > > CL: Unchanged form 1.1, should be approved, description is good > > <anthony> > [23]http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-align-202-t.sv > g > > [23] http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.2T/test/svg/text-align-202- > t.svg > > AG: also this one > > <anthony> [24]http://members.iinet.net.au/~ossarga/text-align-202-t/ > > [24] http://members.iinet.net.au/~ossarga/text-align-202-t/ > > inkscape is correct > > but I want to check with someone that knows arabic > > ED: So publishing the spec by friday > > DS: Better to have a dated version so implementors know what they > tested against > > CL: Need to check with no keyword substitution > > <scribe> ACTION: Chris ensure test suite published on Friday > [recorded in > [25]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action03] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-2187 - Ensure test suite published on > Friday [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-09-16]. > > DS: rev is deprecated, maybee just add rel not rev > > <scribe> ACTION: Chris ask Tantek for advice on adding rev [recorded > in [26]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action04] > > <trackbot> Created ACTION-2188 - Ask Tantek for advice on adding rev > [on Chris Lilley - due 2008-09-16]. > > Summary of Action Items > > [NEW] ACTION: Anthony revise tools/tables/maketables.pl to add > attribute definition links and fix duplicate id entry [recorded in > [27]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action02] > [NEW] ACTION: Chris ask Tantek for advice on adding rev [recorded in > [28]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action04] > [NEW] ACTION: Chris ensure test suite published on Friday [recorded > in [29]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action03] > [NEW] ACTION: Doug to add rel and rev to the svg 'a' element > [recorded in > [30]http://www.w3.org/2008/09/09-svg-minutes.html#action01] > > [End of minutes] > ___________________ > > -- > Chris Lilley mailto:chris@w3.org > Technical Director, Interaction Domain > W3C Graphics Activity Lead > Co-Chair, W3C Hypertext CG >
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