- From: Doug Schepers <schepers@w3.org>
- Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:25:22 -0400
- To: Jeff Schiller <codedread@gmail.com>
- CC: SVG IG List <public-svg-ig@w3.org>
Hi, Folks- Here are some patched-together minutes from the telcon: chair: JeffSchiller scribeNick: Rob_Russell: scribing HelderMagalhaes: ddailey, as the conference is still being setup, quick question: is the XSLT section of the book already on-line for review? Rob_Russell: agenda for today svg in ie issue, website updates, svg book update Rob_Russell: etc ddailey: helder: no ddailey: next week i hope Topic: svg in internet explorer an: received email looking for svg plugin using mozilla to display svg in ie. looks fine but has some glitches JeffSchiller: Daniel Savarese HelderMagalhaes: Yeah, I've done a set of quick experiments and have a few bugs to report an: some issues with embed, only takes full url, not relative. looks like most promising solution right now though HelderMagalhaes: but the idea seems fine HelderMagalhaes: Rob_Russell: two of them are in resumed in your sentence That's why I've already asked for a bug tracker... jeffschiller: challenging to get the community to rally around one solution. personally favour the svg in flash option (svgweb). perhaps we could endorse the two as the preferred ways to do svg in ie an: we have the svg in ie wiki page, we should continure from there and ask Daniel to come on the call and talk more about it. he said he could do webkit or mozilla jeffschiller: sounds like webkit way would be more difficult. the mozilla approach may be most realistic JeffSchiller: plugin is available here: http://www.savarese.com/software/svgplugin/ an: i tested on some of my more complex examples. the svg part was okay, looks like in firefox jeffschiller: good because firefox is probably the broadest deployed svg implementation so this helps authors who target that platform jeffschiller: it would be good if he could talk at the svgopen jeffschiller: maybe andreas could write something on planetsvg about it? an: if it's good then we should put some resources behind it shepazu: i think svgweb (Flash) is the one to bank on. It's hard to get people to install another plugin. Google is behind svgweb and google has credibility. an: as far as I know svgweb doesn't support complex svg applications HelderMagalhaes: (would avoid the install burden whenever a JVM is available) shepazu: that could be. maybe we could promote this through google as well? don't think people install a plugin from a source that's not well-known jeffschiller: svgweb seems to be a good solution for static images. maybe the mozilla plugin is better for complex apps HelderMagalhaes: an: my tests with svgweb showed it's OK for static, but (at least for now) not for RIA-like SVG apps. shepazu: even if they started today, ie wouldn't have svg deployed for at least 2 years jeffschiller: if JWatt and Robert Longston (sp) could get involved maybe we could get mozilla behind promoting this HelderMagalhaes: shepazu: I'm thinking about starting an(other) SVG in IE blog... What do people feel? JeffSchiller: Helder: what do you mean by 'blog' ? shepazu: s/shepazu: I'm thinking/shepazu, I'm thinking/ gwadej: contacting Daniel to get him to promote this at the open would be a good way to get the plugin better-known at least in the svg community HelderMagalhaes: a bit like a corner where to put IE-related stuff.. Probably most will be IE/MS ramblings and links to planetSVG on how to deploy SVG in IE jeffschiller: will start a thread on the mailing list to try to get Robert & Jonathan involved HelderMagalhaes: sorry shepazu, I'm not in telcon, I'll try to learn how-to off-meeting... Topic: SVG Open 2009 jeffschiller: we had a small meeting, doug, rob russell, dstorey last week at google. brad showed us around. big list of action items. we looked at the computer history museum where we'd like to hold the dinner event shepazu: was contacted by events people at CHM who asked if we wanted to hold the event there still, need to get in touch about having just the dinner event jeffschiller: there are several things to follow up on for brad, rob, doug & brad an: we have a lot of reviewing to do. looks like 8-10 sessions to review for each person. if we have more people we can spread it out more jeffschiller: 8-10 to review by end of month isn't bad stelt: there are 2 abstracts that came in late an: will assign them, there will be a couple more coming in over the next few days an: if someone has something really cool then we can still look at it shepazu: brad, jeff, rob & myself met patrick chenazon. he seemed very positive about svg. Patrick and another of his employees are speaking at JavaOne about svg. They'll be announcing the SVG Open in their presentation david: q for shepazu about hotels, i'm also making calls. we shouldn't duplicate shepazu: will forward all the hotel stuff along shepazu: good to have email since we can track it better. best i've seen is a sheraton, $89-$109. free shuttle, free wifi stelt: vincent hardy from oracle is looking into hosting workshops at one of their buildings Zakim: -Shepazu david: we might be able to get a group rate at a hotel and that could get us a conference room for a discounted rate an: if nothing else comes through then a seminar room at a hotel might be a good option stelt: the IBM sponsorship is going through their financial department jeffschiller: i followed up with samsung and they're still working on it an: they may need a sponsorship agreement, stelt can send the same one as was sent to IBM Topic: the book david: not sure if the table of contents is fixed. hyperlinks in ToC are broken david: important to get volunteers to work on specific chapters. might be good to do via email ddailey: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/cs427/StateOfArt-Dailey.html ddailey: that one with toc ddailey: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/IG/resources/svgprimer.html ddailey: if someone wants to volunteer then they can choose a chapter to review and mention it on the mailing list (or on the call) gwadej: eeww ddailey: homesite is good too jeffschiller: can sort out linking issue with doug, but which is current? ddailey: the stylesheets at sru look better but the version at w3c has better html (to standards), the text is the same HelderMagalhaes: ddailey, I'm trying to slowly review the whole text, but sending the tiny things by email is just too much overhead for a bunch of typos and minor incoherences... ddailey: if we had people from the Interest Group and possibly the Working Group if they have time to do review & submit changes an: are we looking for reviewers or new chapters primarily? gwadej: @shepazu, I remember spending a lot of time cleaning out Word's mess. ddailey: at the end of the document there's a section on future directions where people can expand. Currently we need to get the text of the existing document correct shepazu: I am happy to review a section of the document rob_russell: there are 7 chapters, so we only need 7 people ddailey: what needs to be written: http://srufaculty.sru.edu/david.dailey/cs427/StateOfArt-Dailey.html#Afterword HelderMagalhaes: I have already reviewed up to chapter IV, but was waiting for SVN or another control version system to submit the tiny stuff... Ideas? Topic: PlanetSVG.com jeffschiller: Doug, Rob & I get together once a week and hack on improving the site. Doug added a web-based irc client. I've been working on adding Scour on the web. Rob is reorganizing the front page. shepazu: I also added the MIME Type checker rob_russell: anyone that knows drupal or php is welcome to help with better-integrating the tools we're using. ask on the list if you want to join us HelderMagalhaes: What about svg.org? I've noticed a tiny update lately (probably only CSS). Is it something else going on or was it just an isolated update? Topic: Current events ddailey: there's an ongoing public debate about RDF and ARIA in HTML. some people have brought up SVG and how it relates with these other technologies stelt: doug put in an abstract on the accessibility subject
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