- From: Gregory J. Rosmaita <oedipus@hicom.net>
- Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:07:08 +0100
- To: public-svg-ig@w3.org
aloha! minutes from the 25 September 2008 SVG Interest Group Teleconference are available as hypertext at: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html and as an IRC log at: http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-irc and as plain text following my signature -- any mis-attributions, corrections, errors, clarifications, and the like should be logged by replying-to this post on-list the following action items were assigned at today's call: ACTION 1: Gregory - start simple wiki page for IG and W3C resources [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01] ACTION 2: Robert Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action05] thank you, and apologies for mis-attributions, gregory. _________________________________________________________________ - DRAFT - SVG Interest Group Teleconference 25 Sep 2008 Agenda [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2008JulSep/0095.html] See also: IRC log [http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-irc] Attendees Present Jeff_Schiller, Shepazu, Gregory_Rosmaita, Andreas_Neumann, Manuel, Rob_Russell, anthony, Dave_Porter Regrets Christophe_Strobbe, Donald_Dogherty Chair Jeff_Schiller Scribe Gregory_Rosmaita Contents * Topics 1. Process Page for IG Wiki for new members to get them acclimatized; short page 2. Community 3. Permanent Home for Site 4. ACTION ITEM REVIEW 5. SVG Open 2009 * Summary of Action Items _________________________________________________________________ <trackbot> Date: 25 September 2008 <Manuel> i'm in. (+49...) <shepazu> scribeNick: shepazu <JeffSchiller> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2008JulSep/0095.html (introductions) GR: I'm an old hand at W3C, doing ARIA, HTML, and other stuff (blind, use AT) <JeffSchiller> GR: Open Accessibility (a11y.org) which merged with Linux Foundation <oedipus> scribe: Gregory_Rosmaita <oedipus> ScribeNick: oedipus <shepazu> MS: attended SVGOpen, web developer, phD student, use SVG to do hobby stuff, like to advocate use in scientific presentation Manuel: based in Germany - joined IG week ago - part time developer; no use cases for me at moment, but trying to make presentations - some work, some don't Anthony: represent Canon on SVG WG <aneumann> Canon <shepazu> s/ICANN/Canon/ oedipus = Gregory J. Rosmaita Process Page for IG Wiki for new members to get them acclimatized; short page JS: where is tracker, how to use, etc. ... main page of wiki good start - anyone want to create simple page MS: tracker instructions DS: maybe could point to those things JS: starting page ... links to existing resources <scribe> ACTION: Gregory - start simple wiki page for IG and W3C resources [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01] <trackbot> Created ACTION-11 - - start simple wiki page for IG and W3C resources [on Gregory Rosmaita - due 2008-10-02]. JS: wiki collaborative MS: will help on wiki JS: process page - summarize itself <Manuel> my nick in the wiki: mstrehl DS: create account, email me or jeff JS: last: conference call time and date <HelderMagalhaes> Possibly also (if not existent) add some information on participating on conference calls... ;-) JS: doug started poll last week ... is this the right time? international participation important <JeffSchiller> link to poll: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-ig/2008JulSep/0067.html DS: move telecon because some of the more active members not able to attend at this time @helder - will add call participation info to wiki page JS: please fill out form so can schedule calls Community JS: Rob Russell - svg community web site - synopsis <HelderMagalhaes> oedipus: Great! :-) RR: have site set up running on temporary domain - rush70.com - right now everything not visible to public - want more stability before more exposure ... site doesn't have final theme - installed pile of themes - anyone who wants to can edit user prefs to choose theme - feedback on themes IG likes ... theme: zen is good starting point; sent email to list about this; if anyone wants to tailor a theme, can give ftp access to site to tailor without impacting rest of site JS: how to change theme? RR: under my account, choose edit, then choose from long list of themes near bottom of document ... probably want a "portal looking" theme ... openID login turned on - anyone who can improve, please do <Manuel> it's rush70.com, isn't it? RR: turned on wiki tools module - editing handbook page there is a script link to enter sample script; can add pages to book - Best Practices for Authoring SVG Content on web <JeffSchiller> it is rush70.com, yes RR: syntax highlighting model - if include code, use <code type="xml" ...> will do syntax highlighting GJR: how performs syntax highlighting RR: uses GEHSI - marks up with spans ... creates CSS rules oedipus@hicom.net or gregory@linux-foundation.org <Rob_Russell> http://qbnz.com/highlighter/ RR: druple module makes available to users GJR: will provide feedback RR: class naming revision would be good ... is a DIFF module that turned on - if someone goes in under script link at top and adds page, can create new versions of pages with history - diff module supposed to mark changes between revisions <Rob_Russell> http://www.rush70.com/content/scripts-library RR: anyone with account can edit page referred to above - "revisions" tab shows diff; checkbox when submitting page ... new aggregator running on site; working on getting simple work flow for approving work items we want to highlight on site JS: if other admins can get on board and work together, would be preferable RR: created role "administrator" - anyone that wants admin access to site during beta, can turn on, then can decide roles (admins, moderators, etc. when ready to go live) MS: integrate with main W3C page? DS: that is the plan ... SVG page is news off of svg.org -- we will be using news feed specifically for w3c as that updates, will automatically refresh more often; w3c page currently not automated - have to manually rebuild; going to change so when new feed comes in will go to w3c page ... finally heard back from svg.org's owner Permanent Home for Site DS: writing to him in english, but he speaks french and not a lot of english; antoine interceded for me - working through karl dubost (native french speaker) to help communicate with guy - reluctant to get rid of domain - has long-term project he wants to use svg.org for - don't want him to change nature of svg.org from our community site to a private site - offered sub-domain, but don't think that is what we want -- open to transfer w3c or to established com it which is what we are DS: might sell or donate to W3C - still in negotiation ... should know by next meeting if willing to transfer svg.org - if asking considerable sum for it, may pose problems and should re-examine (1) is it worth it and (2) can we raise money for it JS: domain not as important as content - content rich site, domain name can be something other than svg.org DP: can take up collection or can we consider something branded with interest group - svgig.org or svgig.com JS: thinking site would be broader than just w3c - admins and worker bees probably from IG, but w3c doesn't go hand-in-hand with site control <DavePorter> svg-community.com DS: appreciated DP's point - would be received better if perceived as community and not W3C site svg4all.org JS: svg.net a possibility; owner reluctant to part with domain - not a lot of traffic at site - asked him to consider us as first candidate in bidding for domain name <DavePorter> Maybe to provide a carrot for someone giving up their existing svg.* domain, is have a banner add or link prominently in "our" site pointing them back to whatever commercial type enterprise they have got going. DS: can convince svg.org guy - sounded willing because no single company stepping forward to champion SVG, so may be best to transfer to w3c ... could put a "donate" link on site <DavePorter> Bring them into our community--sort of. GJR: could ask DAISY consortium for liaison with SVG in DAISY work DS: would help to have non-profit to promote SVGOpen and other programs - "help us with our activities" donation button ... fairly low overhead JS: should have some news on svg.org - other possibilities which RR has offered DS: in 2009 opening up .web - svg.web not bad ... who has svg.cc? ... cc from creative commons signifies clearly openess JS: still need theme for site; ACTION ITEM REVIEW JS: designers to help? DS: contacted about joining svg ig - don't want to be go between rather have them interacting directly with us ... john cruz is now part of SVG IG - helps run inkscape project (open source graphical editing tool for SVG) ... inkscape interesting to me because casual designer asked for basic info about inkscape, but didn't realize after having used it he was creating SVG -- people just using tool, which is what is goal ... parlay community building into SVG Community site RR: if don't get contributions i will draw pictures and i am not an artist DS: is it worth our while to start before find out about domain name within couple of weeks, would like to see site go public and get more actual content - currently not making best use of rob's time - perhaps need to open up more RR: open to users and leave robots.txt not to index JS: point to rush70? <DavePorter> I like open, but I like trying to get to the permanent domain home. DS: move to domain we have control of RR: pick from domains; drupal a pain to move, but can make happen DS: wait until have domain (svg.org) - still have to find host for svg.org <DavePorter> I second what Doug is saying, wait a couple weeks for progress on svg.org DS: where will it be hosted? can always redirect DNS RR: DNS aliasing can be difficult DS: not a technical difficulty but a "software feature" JS: keep at host using now, RR? RR: as long as hosting can hold it up, fine with me; if port, will port JS: planetsvg.com DS: at dreamhost - could get free hosting - do for what wg - could ask them RR: svghowto.com - would like to make public - so anonymous visitors could at least see content, but keep bots from indexing <JeffSchiller> ACTION: Rob_Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action02] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Rob_Russell <JeffSchiller> ACTION: Metaphorically to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action03] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Metaphorically GJR: plus 1 to svghowto.org SVG Open 2009 Andres: may be hosted in mountainville, close to Monterrey (sp?) <DavePorter> Monterrey Andres: large companies close by is advantage <DavePorter> "Mountain of the king" in Spanish, I believe. Andres: 2 choices: one near large companies, one where group could get a lot of work done in a positive setting JS: didn't get chance to look at facilities Andres: contact at Google looking for proposals from us for sponsoring or helping out with organization - need to discuss how to procede <shepazu> ACTION: Rob to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action04] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Rob JS: brad neuberg working on SVG at Google Andres: may need help with proposal DS: can send to SVG IG list or open svg list, can polish it if you provide basic data Andres: what format? DS: text Andres: Google style plain in any case JS: depends upon sponsorship, but in fall? Andres: heard proposal for spring, but IMO fall would be better <JeffSchiller> ACTION: Robert Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action05] <trackbot> Created ACTION-12 - Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [on Robert Russell - due 2008-10-02]. <shepazu> ACTION: Rob_Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action06] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Rob_Russell Andres: if approach Google, what do we want to ask of them -- organization, venue provision, helping defray cost, assistance with travel <shepazu> ACTION: Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action07] <trackbot> Created ACTION-13 - Move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [on Robert Russell - due 2008-10-02]. TWO MINUTE WARNING DS: ask Google for all of the above -- whatever they are willing to do ... some of our concerns are... if Google can help out with one or more of these things, would be appreciated; Google brand will give conf prestige and improve profile of SVG Andres: open source travel assistance DS: 2 contacts at Google now -- hit up both Andres: vice-president of Google from Switzerland - doesn't know me, but i know him DS: contact professor who knows him ... adjourn or anything urgent? <DavePorter> Yes, time is short, Dave Porter has to drop momentarily. JS: testing, test set - SVG Torture test idea ... high performance SVG demos to see what new javascript widgets can do - can start wiki page and brainstorm it DS: good idea -- demos needed - need something that impresses and instructs JS: challanges section: projects on which groups/individuals can work ... use SVG to mimic effects of lesser technologies <DavePorter> Jeff: please keep reminding us of the W3C IRC client URL in communications about our meetings. I always end up scrambling to find it. JS: new things done in SVG imoprtant too <DavePorter> Good day everyone.... <JeffSchiller> @DavePorter: ok, thanks - sorry DS: how to do easier and better pertaining to web in SVG like EricD's stuff Andres: translations of SVG talked about at OpenSVG -- critical DS: want to translate book as well JS: move to adjourn - may have new time by next call, so stay tuned to emailing list and add to wiki <JeffSchiller> Gregory - thanks for scribing you did an awesome job you're welcome jeff - not up to my usual standards, but thanks <shepazu> thanks again, oedipus <JeffSchiller> yeah somehow i have to learn all these tricks with trackbots, rrsagent, Zakim <JeffSchiller> guess it's a rite of passage? <HelderMagalhaes> Yeah, I was saying that to Anthony minutes ago... no problem - on the wiki page i will point to my scribe's cheat sheet and resources <HelderMagalhaes> Great! :-) <JeffSchiller> that will be awesome <JeffSchiller> did you try my little snow thing in Chrome? Summary of Action Items [NEW] ACTION: Gregory - start simple wiki page for IG and W3C resources [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action01] [NEW] ACTION: Metaphorically to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action03] [NEW] ACTION: Rob to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action04] [NEW] ACTION: Rob_Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action02] [NEW] ACTION: Rob_Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action06] [NEW] ACTION: Robert Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action05] [NEW] ACTION: Russell to move page to one of his domains on 1-and-1 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2008/09/25-svgig-minutes.html#action07] [End of minutes] _________________________________________________________________
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