- From: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
- Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2015 11:15:34 +0100
- To: public-socialweb@w3.org
- CC: Christopher Allan Webber <cwebber@dustycloud.org>, Bill Looby <bill_looby@ie.ibm.com>
- Message-ID: <54F589C6.5000905@wwelves.org>
On 01/21/2015 09:14 PM, ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ wrote: > Hello, > > Since we start clarifying our direction in Social API, I would like to > discuss leveraging *terms* which we find in existing vocabularies and > new one's which we work on. > > First I will make short detour. In Architecture of the World Wide Web, > Volume One we find: > > Good practice: URI opacity > > Agents making use of URIs SHOULD NOT attempt to infer properties > of the referenced resource. > > http://www.w3.org/TR/webarch/#uri-opacity > > In context of our work I would interpret it as: > "Since URIs should stay opaque, we SHOULD NOT mandate what to include in > URIs denoting resource in API - no *magic* paths!" > > If someone wants to expose all the resources using URIs like > > * https://example.com/c251a9aa-bf89-466f-a8d5-a18ea5377f70 > * https://example.com/18d96e54-cfb6-4d14-bef0-80addf21e7a2 > * https://example.com/58438e23-fe45-4589-8ecb-43a459da075a > > Everything should still work :) > > > How do we find then things like: *list of elf's friends*? > > HYPERMEDIA to the rescue \o/ > > Many people feel quite comfortable with *link relations*. When someone > publishes and article with multiple pages. This person doesn't need to > follow conventions like: "For second page add /2 to your URL" etc. > Once we fetch (dereference) given web page, we can simple search for > links with rel="next" or rel="prev" leaving publisher freedom to use > whatever they want in their URLs. > One can find many more such link relations on microformats wiki, > referenced in official HTML5 spec! > http://microformats.org/wiki/existing-rel-values > > In similar way everyone could find list of my friends. Once someone > fetches (dereferences) my online profile, could search in it for links > with rel="knows" or rel="follows". Actually RDFa reuses rel attribute > and we can also use similar pattern in JSON-LD or turtle. > (we can find relation/property/predicate *knows* in FOAF or schema.org!) > > Since I know few thousands of people, and other people find themselves > followed online even by millions of other people. We need a way to avoid > publishing all those links directly on our homepage! One of the proposed > solutions comes from Hydra CG - > https://www.w3.org/community/hydra/wiki/Collection_Design > > { > "@context": { > "@vocab": "http://schema.org", > "hydra": "http://www.w3.org/ns/hydra/core#" > }, > "@id": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper", > "name": "elf Pavlik", > "hydra:collection": [ > { > "@id": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/friends", > "name": "elf Pavlik's friends", > "hydra:manages": { > "property": "knows", > "subject": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/friends" > } > }, > { > "@id": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/events", > "name": "elf Pavlik's events", > "hydra:manages": { > "property": "attendee", > "object": "https://wwelves.org/perpetual-tripper/friends" > } > } > ] > } > > Even that I chose to use vanity URLs ending with /friends or /events, I > could as well use generic /c251a9aa-bf89-466f-a8d5-a18ea5377f70 and it > will still work. If you read this example carefully you would notice > that I even used attendee relation/property/predicate in *inverse* > direction :) > > I will leave it here and I hope we can discuss together various > advantages, and possible drawbacks of such approach... ADVANTAGES++ In many cases one will keep one's photo/video/audio albums on *another domain* than one's social profile, also powered by dedicated multimedia backend e.g. MediaGoblin. We MUST NOT assume that all the social data stays available under / path of some particular domain which may just host just an Identity/Profile and no other 'social artifacts', instead delegating it to other data spaces on the web! Bill, do you see it relevant to your *Integration* User stories?
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