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Re: TPAC: Schema.org and Social WG ( legal / technical )

From: ☮ elf Pavlik ☮ <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:39:31 +0200
Message-ID: <5448CCD3.70608@wwelves.org>
To: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>, Social Web Working Group <public-socialweb@w3.org>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@w3.org>
CC: Markus Lanthaler <markus.lanthaler@gmx.net>
On 10/23/2014 01:30 AM, James M Snell wrote:
> I'm planning on attending the BOF.
Great! I let myself add your name to wiki as interested in this session
and will also notify Sam.
https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2014/SessionIdeas#Schema.org_and_Social_WG

Harry, do you have some strategy for how to create space supporting both
legal and technical discussions? Should we also add time information to
the session description, I remember you sending note mentioning 9AM.

If we have possibility of remote participation then me, and maybe
Markus, could join technical discussion as well. I will do my best to
catch up with current state of art in Hydra CG and try my best to
represent it remotely in conversation in case Markus can't connect on
that day. Maybe also we could take a look at making update to
'Integration of Hydra into Schema.org' draft
http://www.hydra-cg.com/spec/latest/schema.org/

James, you might find interesting latest call for consensus from Hydra
CG on IriTemplate design:
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-hydra/2014Oct/0119.html it
also introduces hydra:rfc6570Template datatype.

o/

> 
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014, 4:28 PM ☮ elf Pavlik ☮
> <perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org <mailto:perpetual-tripper@wwelves.org>>
> wrote:
> 
>     Hello,
> 
>     I asked Sam Goto, who leads schema.org/Action
>     <http://schema.org/Action> development, if he would
>     like to join this Wednesday TPAC session[1]. He replied:
> 
>     "I don't know yet ... if most people are interested in things like
>     licensing and legalises of schema.org <http://schema.org>, Guha is
>     going and can represent
>     that a lot better than I.
> 
>     If, however, there are folks that are interested in discussing the
>     technical/concrete merits of one approach over the other, than I think
>     it is a forum that I can contribute to constructively.
> 
>     The last time I presented to this group there wasn't anything that I
>     could really respond to, so I'm unsure if I'll attend."
> 
> 
>     Since schema:Action and as:Activity have huge overlap [2], as well as
>     as:PotentialActionHandler and schema:EntryPoint. I think it would make a
>     lot of sense to take opportunity of meeting face to face to see
>     possibilities of coordinating our efforts.
> 
>     James, currently I don't see you among people interested in
>     participating in this session. Would you consider discussing technical
>     aspects of ActivityStreams 2.0 and Schema.org/Action with Sam?
> 
>     Tantek, maybe you could also bring experience with <indie-action>[3] to
>     the table?
> 
>     I also added to session description links to
>     * http://activitystrea.ms/head/__activity-schema.html#verbs
>     <http://activitystrea.ms/head/activity-schema.html#verbs>
>     * http://activitystrea.ms/head/__activity-schema.html#object-__types
>     <http://activitystrea.ms/head/activity-schema.html#object-types>
> 
>     This topic I see on the border of techinical / political? discussion.
>     IMO having ActivityStreams, Schema.org and Microformats all defining
>     very similar concepts doesn't make live easier for people who implement
>     publishing and consuming of social data :(
> 
>     Could we try to clarify interests for that meeting among Social WG
>     participants in next 2 days and then also have conversation over
>     public-vocabs?
> 
>     I see combining legal / technical / hybrid topics somehow
>     challenging ...
> 
>     Cheers!
> 
>     [1]
>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/__TPAC2014/SessionIdeas#Schema.__org_and_Social_WG
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/TPAC2014/SessionIdeas#Schema.org_and_Social_WG>
>     [2]
>     https://www.w3.org/wiki/__Socialwg/Vocabulary___Comparison#as:Activity_.7C.7C___schema:Action
>     <https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/Vocabulary_Comparison#as:Activity_.7C.7C_schema:Action>
>     [3] http://indiewebcamp.com/__webactions
>     <http://indiewebcamp.com/webactions>
> 
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