- From: Wilson, Kirk D <Kirk.Wilson@ca.com>
- Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 16:37:15 -0400
- To: "John Arwe" <johnarwe@us.ibm.com>, <public-sml@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <F9576E62032243419E097FED5F0E75F305491E5C@USILMS12.ca.com>
I should be able to attend this week.
Kirk Wilson, Ph.D.
Research Staff Member, CA Labs
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From: public-sml-request@w3.org [mailto:public-sml-request@w3.org] On
Behalf Of John Arwe
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:30 PM
To: public-sml@w3.org
Subject: [w3c sml][agenda] 2008-09-11 SML Telecon
Reminder: WBS form closes TODAY for Jan/Feb meeting availability, see
"from the CG"
Reminder: Everyone has HOMEWORK for this week's call, re-reading test
cases discussions (URIs below)
Kirk/Kumar, it appears you may be scribing this week.
Chair: when sending out an agenda, use following format
[w3c sml][agenda] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Chair: when sending out an updated agenda, use following format, "n" =
update number, 1st update == 2, etc.
[w3c sml][agenda][ver n] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email
([agenda] [ver n] agreed to, rest chair's convention)
Scribe: read entire agenda, I restructured it so your "to do"s around
the scribe list are time-sequenced
i.e. less to remember
The phone number to use for the SML WG teleconference is documented on
the WG's administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#phone>
Participants are invited to join IRC channel, as documented on the WG's
administrative home page:
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#irc>
Teleconference Time and Length (two hours)
Pacific 11 AM - 1 PM
Mountain 12 PM - 2 PM
Central 1 PM - 3 PM
Eastern 2 PM - 4 PM
UK 7 PM - 9 PM
Paris 8 PM - 10 PM
Beijing 2 AM - 4 AM (sorry)
Publication moratorium for the rest of this year:
13 October, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
16 October: Last publications before moratorium
17 - 26 October: No publications
27 October: Publications resume
18 December, 12pm ET: Deadline for publication requests
before moratorium
22 December: Last publications before moratorium
23 December - 1 January: No publications
2 January 2009: Publications resume
Proposed Agenda:
1. Roll call (present/regrets/absent)
2. Selection of Scribe based on list below
New scribes see:
- Scribe Quick Start Guide
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
- Scribe FAQ
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-ws-policy/2006Oct/0001.html>
- Instructions (steps "n-...") at the end of this agenda for
reviewing and sending out minutes
- PLEASE make any new Actions fully self-describing so they do not
require the minutes as context.
We found it awkward in the past to require going back to the
minutes for context.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-07-10 McCarthy, Julia Until further notice
2008-08-07 Smith, Virginia 9/11
2008-08-21 Wilson, Kirk
2008-08-28 Kumar, Pandit
2008-09-04 Gao, Sandy
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM
3. Approval of minutes from previous meeting(s):
- http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records
<http://www.w3.org/XML/SML/#records>
- 9/4
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Sep/att-0007/20080904
-sml-minutes.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Sep/att-0007/2008090
4-sml-minutes.html>
4. "from the CG" http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule
<http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML#schedule>
- No changes.
- By Oct 13 23:59 US Eastern time: Register for Oct 27-29 SML meeting
http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML <http://www.w3.org/XML/Group/SML>
- By Sept 9 23:59 US Eastern time: Answer questionnaire for Jan/Feb
meeting
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/41079/sml-dates-2009Q1/
<http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/41079/sml-dates-2009Q1/>
5. Action items: goes faster if you update yours before the meeting...
http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/
<http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/sml/>
6. Does the SML working group wish to endorse any of the following bugs
opened against Schema 1.1 LC2 drafts?
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6009
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6009>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6010
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6010>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6011
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6011>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6012
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6012>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6013
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6013>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6014
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6014>
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6015
<http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=6015>
7. Test case discussion. Per last week's minutes see relevant materials
http://wiki.eclipse.org/COSMOS_SML_Test_Plan
<http://wiki.eclipse.org/COSMOS_SML_Test_Plan> (updated 9/5!) - for
coverage
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Apr/0062.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008Apr/0062.html> -
Kumar's earlier proposal
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008May/0023.html
<http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sml/2008May/0023.html> -
end of email thread, read back to Kumar's proposal
n-5. Review bugs with no keywords or target (none as of this writing!)
n-4. Review and attempt to reach consensus on other non-editorial bugs
targeted for the next draft.
Within each cluster, typically we look at them in this order
"decided" (after the 2-week grace period for responses ends)
"needsReview" (either we have consensus, it's no longer
needsReview, or the editors need to re-spin the proposed text)
"hasProposal"
"externalComments + reviewerNotSatisfied" - even if closed,
e.g. 5543, 5562
"externalComments + neither( reviewerNotSatisfied ,
reviewerSatisfied )" aka "reach out again?"
others
If the working group comes to an agreement in principle on the
disposition of the remaining
substantive bugs (as of this agenda: 5542, 5600, 5741), then it
should also seek consensus
for when to publish the next Last Call Public Working Draft on
the assumption that the editors
will draft acceptable text quickly. In other words, consensus
on publishing on a specific
date means that the expectation is to publish then, and the date
moves out ONLY if acceptable
text cannot be agreed to in time.
Those with a Target Milestone of CR we may not spend time on
during this week's call. They do not gate LC.
n-3. Scribe: update scribe list below in this meeting's minutes, for use
in the next meeting's agenda:
Update the list below and sort it (LRU), leaving people who will be
out for an extended period near the bottom
to keep the names of draftees for the current meeting near the top,
so when the next agenda goes out people
will know if their name is at or near the top of the list to scribe
next.
Last Scribe Date Member Name Regrets pending
2008-05-22 Lynn, James Until further notice
2008-07-10 McCarthy, Julia Until further notice
2008-08-07 Smith, Virginia 9/11
2008-08-21 Wilson, Kirk
2008-08-28 Kumar, Pandit
2008-09-04 Gao, Sandy
Exempt Arwe, John
Exempt Dublish, Pratul
Exempt MSM
n-2. Scribe: follow the steps in the Scribe Quick Start Guide through
"Generate minutes"
http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm
<http://dev.w3.org/cvsweb/%7Echeckout%7E/2002/scribe/scribedoc.htm>
Also issue the command "rrsagent, make log public" since we are a
public workgroup.
DO NOT use tools that significantly change the source html, like
Word, to do your editing.
Those tools make compare tools to sanity check the scribe's edits
unusable even though it
renders fine visually (even here, some like Word remove W3C style
sheets so it renders
with subtle differences).
n-1. Scribe: (optional, but most often followed)
Send the original and updated minutes to the meeting chair as an
editorial check before
sending to the full list. Assume the chair will use a compare tool.
n. Scribe: send the minutes to the public mailing list
After the meeting, follow the conventions we have agreed on within
the wg to help
people search the email archives more effectively, namely:
[w3c sml][minutes] yyyy-mm-dd SML in subject of email ([minutes]
agreed to, rest chair's convention)
As with agendas, if minutes are updated include a [ver n] "tag" as
well.
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n+1. Chair
After meeting, update good standing list
Received on Tuesday, 9 September 2008 20:38:02 UTC