- From: Wilco Fiers <wilco.fiers@deque.com>
- Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2021 10:23:21 +0200
- To: "Sajka, Janina" <sajkaj@amazon.com>
- Cc: "public-silver@w3.org" <public-silver@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAHVyjGNeETbVsZtxOP19YAfPV3+ou+Px5RcifEzpWo8hGYbiWQ@mail.gmail.com>
Regrets, conflicting meeting. On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 1:45 AM Sajka, Janina <sajkaj@amazon.com> wrote: > > > > > Minutes from a Silver Text Alternatives of User Generated Content Ad Hoc > teleconference of > > Tuesday 20 July are provided here. > > > > =========================================================== > > SUMMARY: > > * Discussed how to integrate methods and outcomes that require > authors > > to prompt and offer help as users upload content that requires text > > alternatives. > > * Makoto will come up with a proposal taken from ATAG, share > with the > > Text Alternatives subgroup, and with Conformance Options > > =========================================================== > > > > Hypertext minutes available at: > > https://www.w3.org/2021/07/20-silver-conf-minutes.html > > > > =========================================================== > > > > W3C > > > > > – DRAFT – > > > Silver Text Alternatives Ad Hoc > > > > 20 Jul 2021 > > > > IRC log. > > > > Attendees > > > > Present > > jeanne, Makoto, sajkaj > > > > Regrets > > - > > > > Chair > > - > > > > Scribe > > sajkaj > > > > Contents > > > > Meeting minutes > > > > <PeterKorn> > https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/silver/wiki/User_Generated_Content#User_Generated_Content > > > > <PeterKorn> @Jeanne - I made a bunch of edits to Janina's first > "Editor's Note" in the first section of the page, trying to speak to issues > raised by Cybelle and others, that I'm not particularly happy with. they > > need more work. > > > > <PeterKorn> I wanted to bring your attention to them, to note this text > is very much a work in progress. > > > > <Makoto> > https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG3/2020/methods/text-alternative-editable/ > > > > pk: presents background ... > > > > Makoto: agrees with general notion that a site doing most/all of what > it can should at least score some minimum > > > > jeanne: suggests avoiding scoring values for now > > > > Makoto: agrees -- talking about scoring at this time would make things > more complicated > > > > Makoto: offers to review existing methods from atag and come up with a > "to do" list > > > > Makoto: provide popup prompt, help, etc > > > > Makoto: once we've created the list, we can order it into steps > > > > PeterKorn: or, more sensible to say "text alternatives prompted for: > ..." > > > > PeterKorn: and a separate collection of things to do > > > > jeanne: notes outcome is that it is or isn't available, methods do the > inner steps > > > > sajkaj: suggests the outcome "exiswts" would pass bad alt text as well > as good? > > > > PeterKorn: do we ask for it as part of the flow? provide guidance on > what constitutes good, etc; but not require that the user actually enters > something > > > > jeanne: agrees strongly -- we discussed in atag > > > > PeterKorn: so "ext alt available" may not be correct in practice > > > > jeanne: in this case it would mean "text alternative mechanism > available" > > > > PeterKorn: so we would have one or more callout under outcomes for ugc > > > > jeanne: points to text alternative editable as the place for ugc > > > > PeterKorn: text alternative method available > > > > jeanne: could actually rename ... > > > > PeterKorn: makes sense > > > > Makoto: will review this method and suggest next steps > > > > jeanne: please feel free to stage whatever you think, makoto! > > > > sajkaj: asks about functional breakdown, e.g. decorative, functional vs > informative, etc > > > > jeanne: not yet; we can ednote and ask for feedback > > > > Makoto: will also share this topic with ta group > > > > PeterKorn: suggests making changes in the wcag draft and ping when > ready for review > > > > PeterKorn: confirms we're aiming still at august wd > > > > jeanne: certainly hope so, noting it's late, but maybe > > > > > > Minutes manually created (not a transcript), formatted by scribe.perl > version 136 (Thu May 27 13:50:24 2021 UTC). > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------- > > > > Janina Sajka > > Accessibility Standards Consultant > > sajkaj@amazon.com > > > -- *Wilco Fiers* Axe-core product owner - Facilitator ACT Task Force - Co-chair ACT-Rules
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