- From: Joanne Luciano (gmail) <jluciano@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:36:32 -0400
- To: Michel_Dumontier <Michel_Dumontier@carleton.ca>
- Cc: obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net, public-semweb-lifesci hcls <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>, Cliff A Joslyn <cliff.joslyn@pnl.gov>
Hi Michel, Thanks for bringing up this topic. As you know, it's something I've been thinking about for some time. When I was at MITRE, I was tasked with proposing a research program in on ontology evaluation methods and metrics and came up with an approach that NIST liked and was intending to support, however between federal budgets and other bureaucratic concerns, etc, it all got put on hold. Fortunately, I was able to presented these ideas at the Infectious Disease Ontology workshop and at the EBI Industry Program and refer you to the slides for further discussion. The slides are here: http://ontology.buffalo.edu/08/IDO/Luciano.pdf When I was at Manchester I ran this by Bijan Parsia for ontology evaluation and suggested that the approach could also be used for ontology engineering. He liked that idea and thought I should propose it as a development methodology. The idea is to build ontologies in what I termed "semantic components" which could be independently constructed and evaluated and reused. Circumstances prevented me from then further writing it up, but times have changed and this is back on my agenda when I return from summer holiday. The approach I came up with starts with the assumption that it only makes sense to evaluate an ontology within the context of a use. Is and ontology good? Good for what? What is the intended use of the ontology. It then separates the function of the ontology from the metric used to measure of the ontology. I think for this I was influenced by a paper by Bernhard Riemann, (have to check when I'm back in Boston) coming from the idea that what is being measured is independent of the measurement. For example, the measurement of length of an object is independent from the object being measured. The second part breaks the function down into three levels, function, requirements of the design, and the semantic components needed to meet the requirements and perform the function. Each of these three functional levels is and can be evaluated independently (which supports not only modular construction of ontologies, but modular testing and reuse of components). Note that part of what lies ahead for us (the community) is a research project -- some metrics are and have been established from our (the ontology community's) ancestry in natural language processing and software development. Others we have to create for our purpose. Hope this helps the discussion. Cheers, Joanne On Jul 27, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Michel_Dumontier wrote: > There are two issues I'd like to raise to our communities: > > 1 - What metrics should we use to assess ontology quality and > determine whether an ontology is "good". > 2 - Can we re-factor existing, and well used terminologies (SNOMED- > CT, NCI-T, ICD) into "good" ontologies for health care and the life > sciences? > > m. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Hogan [mailto:hoganwr@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 11:57 AM >> To: obo-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: Re: [Obo-discuss] Ontological Realism and OBO Foundry >> Criteria >> >> We don't have _good_ ontologies for basic electronic medical record >> "stuff", like diseases, hypersensitivity conditions (although I >> made a >> start), medications, procedures, laboratory tests (again, work >> started >> but still woefully incomplete, even without hitting any hard cases), >> etc. >> >> >> Bill >> > >
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