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Re: Publish ssn-ext WD - was RE: Recap Toulouse face to face

From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 15:10:56 -0500
Message-ID: <2dd995253a3c5de2c665483b36954924082f2259.camel@w3.org>
To: "Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton)" <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>, Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>, "public-sdwig@w3.org" <public-sdwig@w3.org>, "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
Hi Simon,

The document is staged at:

https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20200116/ 

Barring any major issues, it will be published tomorrow. Seems we only
need to address CSS issues. I fixed a few minor issues and committed
back to repo.

I commented out this CSS as it is invalid, your comment suggests it
gets set by JS but not seeing how offhand.

  left: var(--left); /* set via JS */
  top: var(--top); /* set via JS */

If you can provide me those values, I'll update the doc.

Also I get

Property pointer-events doesn't exist : none 

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20200116/

and will seek clarification about its use in W3C specs

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41406627/css-pointer-events-and-appearance-properties-not-recognized-by-css-validator

Only pubrules error is from the custom OGC & W3C copyright which we
previously accepted so should not be an issue.

https://www.w3.org/pubrules/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2020%2FWD-vocab-ssn-ext-20200116%2F&profile=WD&validation=simple-validation&noRecTrack=true&informativeOnly=false&echidnaReady=false&patentPolicy=pp2004

Markup validator and link checker are happy.

As IG don't usually publish Working Drafts (WD), we are not sure we can
set this to auto-publish going forward. I did get approval back in
December for SDWIG to continue publishing as a WD instead of relegating
this to a W3C Note.

On Wed, 2020-01-15 at 12:07 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> With Linda's approval, I am working with W3C Webmaster to publish and
> should be done by tomorrow.
> 
> On Mon, 2020-01-13 at 05:32 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> > I wonder if we could progress this now. 
> > The goal would be for 
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20181122/ to be
> > superseded by the content currently at 
> > https://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn-extensions/ 
> > Is that something that the chairs can now give Ted the OK on? 
> > 
> > Simon 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl> 
> > Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2019 20:18
> > To: ted@w3.org; Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; 
> > public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> > Subject: RE: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > 
> > Hi all, 
> > 
> > Probably everyone is on holiday now, but I'll just send you my
> > thoughts. 
> > 
> > I don't feel the need to do a call for consensus, since we had the
> > face to face and since then we've had some feedback via github
> > (which
> > has triggered some minor updates), ergo enough exposure. 
> > 
> > However I'm wondering about two things: 
> > 1) the plan to publish this extension in the main ssn namespace. @
> > ted@w3.org, do you have any new input on this? 
> > 
> > 2) (longer term) if we start treating SOSA/SSN as an evergreen
> > standard, we need to figure out how this relates to the OGC
> > standards
> > process, where something like that doesn't exist (yet). 
> > 
> > Linda
> > 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > Verzonden: maandag 9 december 2019 18:57
> > Aan: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; Linda van den
> > Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy,
> > Jeremy
> > <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> > Onderwerp: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > 
> > Hi Simon,
> > 
> > As it was previously a [First Public] Working Draft I requested
> > permission to publish it as a Working Draft. Some prefer WD to
> > Notes
> > as having more weight as a specification although that is a matter
> > of
> > perception. I spoke with Philippe Le Hegaret with his Director hat
> > on
> > and he is inclined, awaiting email confirmation.
> > 
> > I viewed the support for the updates presented at the face to face
> > as
> > approval but Linda or Jeremy may wish to formalize with a call for
> > consensus. That can be done simply as an email to this list with a
> > deadline, typically five business days as I recall, to voice
> > objection.
> > 
> > On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 22:00 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> > > Draft of SSN-EXT is here: 
> > > https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/
> > > I would like this to be issued ASAP as a new PWD, replacing 
> > > https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-ssn-ext/ which was published a year
> > > ago 
> > > now.
> > > How do we initiate a vote to allow this? 
> > > 
> > > IMO it is pretty close to done now, so after responding to
> > > comments
> > > in 
> > > response to PWD, I would then like to look towards this being
> > > issued 
> > > by this IG as a W3C Note / OGC Discussion Paper.
> > > 
> > > Simon
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, 7 December, 2019 00:03
> > > To: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; 
> > > public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk
> > > >
> > > Subject: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > > 
> > > Minutes are online, corrections welcome. In particular need link
> > > for 
> > > Rob's slides and and issue he mentioned on github and a project
> > > Esa 
> > > mentioned, look for @@ for context.
> > > 
> > > https://www.w3.org/2019/11/19-sdw-minutes
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 10:09 +0000, Linda van den Brink wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >  
> > > > Here’s a short recap of the face to face meeting we had in
> > > > Toulouse 
> > > > at the OGC TC.
> > > >  
> > > > SSN extension
> > > > Simon Cox presented the latest Editor’s draft of the SSN
> > > > Extensions 
> > > > document [1]. The idea is to publish a new WD of this document 
> > > > (which is intended to be a W3C Note / OGC Discussion paper). He
> > > > has 
> > > > asked the group for review [2] Ted Guild will help navigate
> > > > this 
> > > > through the process once the group agrees to publish this as a
> > > > new 
> > > > WD. The new ‘evergreen’ standards process of W3C may be
> > > > applicable.
> > > >  
> > > > WebVMT
> > > > Rob Smith gave an update on the WebVMT work. It’s still in 
> > > > incubation phase, partly within the Web Platform Incubator
> > > > Community 
> > > > Group.
> > > > Contact with browser developers has been initiated, revealing
> > > > that 
> > > > there has been previous work on video geotagging but at the
> > > > time
> > > > no 
> > > > consensus was reached. There seems to be some interest in doing
> > > > this 
> > > > now.
> > > >  
> > > > MapML
> > > > The community around MapML is slowly developing; Peter
> > > > Rushforth
> > > > did 
> > > > some community building at TPAC this year and talked to
> > > > browser 
> > > > developers from Agalia, Beaucoup, Firefox, Chrome. There is
> > > > also
> > > > a 
> > > > draft use cases & requirements document [3]. On the OGC side
> > > > MapML 
> > > > is being worked on in testbed 15. Peter and Ted will look into 
> > > > organizing a W3C workshop on maps in HTML.
> > > >  
> > > > Discussion on charter
> > > > The general feeling about the proposed charter is positive;
> > > > those 
> > > > present agreed we should move this charter forward. There were
> > > > some 
> > > > pointers to improve the text. The chairs will transfer the
> > > > charter 
> > > > text to the right template and further improve the text. When 
> > > > rechartering we may want to think about promoting the group
> > > > some,
> > > > in 
> > > > order to remind the W3C and OGC membership what we’re doing.
> > > >  
> > > > Linked building data
> > > > Mathias Bonduel and others from the Linked building data
> > > > community 
> > > > group joined to present their work. They are working on
> > > > ontologies 
> > > > for linked building data, collecting use cases, requirements, 
> > > > developing best practices and ontologies, in the future
> > > > planning
> > > > to 
> > > > evolve to a W3C WG. They are contacting the SDWIG to see if OGC
> > > > can 
> > > > help with their use cases related to geometry and topology.
> > > > This 
> > > > turns out to be related to the OWL Space / GeoSPARQL 2.0 work, 
> > > > currently discussed in the OGC Geosemantics working group,
> > > > which 
> > > > they were invited to join.
> > > > Another potentially interesting OGC standard is IndoorGML
> > > > which 
> > > > describes topology of buildings.
> > > >  
> > > > SDW Finland
> > > > Esa Tiainen presented remotely [4] on low hanging fruit and how
> > > > to 
> > > > move forward with spatial data on the web.
> > > >  
> > > > OGC technology trends
> > > > George Percivall presented the tech trends [5] OGC has their
> > > > eye
> > > > on 
> > > > and asks the group if there are more trends to record within
> > > > the 
> > > > spatial web data trend group.
> > > >  
> > > > [1]: https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/
> > > > [2]: 
> > > > 
> 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdwig/2019Nov/0029.html
> > > > [3]: 
> > > > 
> 
> https://maps4html.github.io/HTML-Map-Element-UseCases-Requirements/
> > > > [4]: 
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-presentation-e
> > > > sa-tiainen.pdf
> > > > [5]: 
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-OGC-tech-trend
> > > > s-for-SDWIG.pdf
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > > W3C Automotive Lead
> > > https://www.w3.org/auto
> > > 
> > 
> > --
> > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > W3C Automotive Lead
> > https://www.w3.org/auto
> > 
-- 
Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
W3C Automotive Lead
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