Re: Publish ssn-ext WD - was RE: Recap Toulouse face to face

With Linda's approval, I am working with W3C Webmaster to publish and
should be done by tomorrow.

On Mon, 2020-01-13 at 05:32 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> I wonder if we could progress this now. 
> The goal would be for 
> https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20181122/ to be
> superseded by the content currently at 
> https://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn-extensions/ 
> Is that something that the chairs can now give Ted the OK on? 
> 
> Simon 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl> 
> Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2019 20:18
> To: ted@w3.org; Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; 
> public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> Subject: RE: Recap Toulouse face to face
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> Probably everyone is on holiday now, but I'll just send you my
> thoughts. 
> 
> I don't feel the need to do a call for consensus, since we had the
> face to face and since then we've had some feedback via github (which
> has triggered some minor updates), ergo enough exposure. 
> 
> However I'm wondering about two things: 
> 1) the plan to publish this extension in the main ssn namespace. @
> ted@w3.org, do you have any new input on this? 
> 
> 2) (longer term) if we start treating SOSA/SSN as an evergreen
> standard, we need to figure out how this relates to the OGC standards
> process, where something like that doesn't exist (yet). 
> 
> Linda
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> Verzonden: maandag 9 december 2019 18:57
> Aan: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; Linda van den
> Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy
> <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> Onderwerp: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> 
> Hi Simon,
> 
> As it was previously a [First Public] Working Draft I requested
> permission to publish it as a Working Draft. Some prefer WD to Notes
> as having more weight as a specification although that is a matter of
> perception. I spoke with Philippe Le Hegaret with his Director hat on
> and he is inclined, awaiting email confirmation.
> 
> I viewed the support for the updates presented at the face to face as
> approval but Linda or Jeremy may wish to formalize with a call for
> consensus. That can be done simply as an email to this list with a
> deadline, typically five business days as I recall, to voice
> objection.
> 
> On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 22:00 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> > Draft of SSN-EXT is here: 
> > https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/
> > I would like this to be issued ASAP as a new PWD, replacing 
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-ssn-ext/ which was published a year
> > ago 
> > now.
> > How do we initiate a vote to allow this? 
> > 
> > IMO it is pretty close to done now, so after responding to comments
> > in 
> > response to PWD, I would then like to look towards this being
> > issued 
> > by this IG as a W3C Note / OGC Discussion Paper.
> > 
> > Simon
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, 7 December, 2019 00:03
> > To: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; 
> > public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> > Subject: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > 
> > Minutes are online, corrections welcome. In particular need link
> > for 
> > Rob's slides and and issue he mentioned on github and a project
> > Esa 
> > mentioned, look for @@ for context.
> > 
> > https://www.w3.org/2019/11/19-sdw-minutes
> > 
> > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 10:09 +0000, Linda van den Brink wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >  
> > > Here’s a short recap of the face to face meeting we had in
> > > Toulouse 
> > > at the OGC TC.
> > >  
> > > SSN extension
> > > Simon Cox presented the latest Editor’s draft of the SSN
> > > Extensions 
> > > document [1]. The idea is to publish a new WD of this document 
> > > (which is intended to be a W3C Note / OGC Discussion paper). He
> > > has 
> > > asked the group for review [2] Ted Guild will help navigate this 
> > > through the process once the group agrees to publish this as a
> > > new 
> > > WD. The new ‘evergreen’ standards process of W3C may be
> > > applicable.
> > >  
> > > WebVMT
> > > Rob Smith gave an update on the WebVMT work. It’s still in 
> > > incubation phase, partly within the Web Platform Incubator
> > > Community 
> > > Group.
> > > Contact with browser developers has been initiated, revealing
> > > that 
> > > there has been previous work on video geotagging but at the time
> > > no 
> > > consensus was reached. There seems to be some interest in doing
> > > this 
> > > now.
> > >  
> > > MapML
> > > The community around MapML is slowly developing; Peter Rushforth
> > > did 
> > > some community building at TPAC this year and talked to browser 
> > > developers from Agalia, Beaucoup, Firefox, Chrome. There is also
> > > a 
> > > draft use cases & requirements document [3]. On the OGC side
> > > MapML 
> > > is being worked on in testbed 15. Peter and Ted will look into 
> > > organizing a W3C workshop on maps in HTML.
> > >  
> > > Discussion on charter
> > > The general feeling about the proposed charter is positive;
> > > those 
> > > present agreed we should move this charter forward. There were
> > > some 
> > > pointers to improve the text. The chairs will transfer the
> > > charter 
> > > text to the right template and further improve the text. When 
> > > rechartering we may want to think about promoting the group some,
> > > in 
> > > order to remind the W3C and OGC membership what we’re doing.
> > >  
> > > Linked building data
> > > Mathias Bonduel and others from the Linked building data
> > > community 
> > > group joined to present their work. They are working on
> > > ontologies 
> > > for linked building data, collecting use cases, requirements, 
> > > developing best practices and ontologies, in the future planning
> > > to 
> > > evolve to a W3C WG. They are contacting the SDWIG to see if OGC
> > > can 
> > > help with their use cases related to geometry and topology. This 
> > > turns out to be related to the OWL Space / GeoSPARQL 2.0 work, 
> > > currently discussed in the OGC Geosemantics working group, which 
> > > they were invited to join.
> > > Another potentially interesting OGC standard is IndoorGML which 
> > > describes topology of buildings.
> > >  
> > > SDW Finland
> > > Esa Tiainen presented remotely [4] on low hanging fruit and how
> > > to 
> > > move forward with spatial data on the web.
> > >  
> > > OGC technology trends
> > > George Percivall presented the tech trends [5] OGC has their eye
> > > on 
> > > and asks the group if there are more trends to record within the 
> > > spatial web data trend group.
> > >  
> > > [1]: https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/
> > > [2]: 
> > > 
https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdwig/2019Nov/0029.html
> > > [3]: 
> > > 
https://maps4html.github.io/HTML-Map-Element-UseCases-Requirements/
> > > [4]: 
> > > 
> 
> 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-presentation-e
> > > sa-tiainen.pdf
> > > [5]: 
> > > 
> 
> 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-OGC-tech-trend
> > > s-for-SDWIG.pdf
> > 
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> > W3C Automotive Lead
> > https://www.w3.org/auto
> > 
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