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RE: Publish ssn-ext WD - was RE: Recap Toulouse face to face

From: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 02:38:51 +0000
To: "ted@w3.org" <ted@w3.org>, Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>, "public-sdwig@w3.org" <public-sdwig@w3.org>, "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
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Thanks Ted. 

I'm not a CSS maven, so everything you see there was cloned from some other projects. So unfortunately I can't debug. 

Simon 

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org> 
Sent: Thursday, 16 January, 2020 07:11
To: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
Subject: Re: Publish ssn-ext WD - was RE: Recap Toulouse face to face
Importance: High

Hi Simon,

The document is staged at:

https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20200116/ 

Barring any major issues, it will be published tomorrow. Seems we only need to address CSS issues. I fixed a few minor issues and committed back to repo.

I commented out this CSS as it is invalid, your comment suggests it gets set by JS but not seeing how offhand.

  left: var(--left); /* set via JS */
  top: var(--top); /* set via JS */

If you can provide me those values, I'll update the doc.

Also I get

Property pointer-events doesn't exist : none 

https://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=https://www.w3.org/TR/2020/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20200116/


and will seek clarification about its use in W3C specs

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41406627/css-pointer-events-and-appearance-properties-not-recognized-by-css-validator


Only pubrules error is from the custom OGC & W3C copyright which we previously accepted so should not be an issue.

https://www.w3.org/pubrules/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.w3.org%2FTR%2F2020%2FWD-vocab-ssn-ext-20200116%2F&profile=WD&validation=simple-validation&noRecTrack=true&informativeOnly=false&echidnaReady=false&patentPolicy=pp2004


Markup validator and link checker are happy.

As IG don't usually publish Working Drafts (WD), we are not sure we can set this to auto-publish going forward. I did get approval back in December for SDWIG to continue publishing as a WD instead of relegating this to a W3C Note.

On Wed, 2020-01-15 at 12:07 -0500, Ted Guild wrote:
> With Linda's approval, I am working with W3C Webmaster to publish and 
> should be done by tomorrow.
> 
> On Mon, 2020-01-13 at 05:32 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> > I wonder if we could progress this now. 
> > The goal would be for
> > https://www.w3.org/TR/2018/WD-vocab-ssn-ext-20181122/ to be 
> > superseded by the content currently at 
> > https://w3c.github.io/sdw/ssn-extensions/

> > Is that something that the chairs can now give Ted the OK on? 
> > 
> > Simon
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>
> > Sent: Monday, 23 December, 2019 20:18
> > To: ted@w3.org; Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; 
> > public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> > Subject: RE: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > Probably everyone is on holiday now, but I'll just send you my 
> > thoughts.
> > 
> > I don't feel the need to do a call for consensus, since we had the 
> > face to face and since then we've had some feedback via github 
> > (which has triggered some minor updates), ergo enough exposure.
> > 
> > However I'm wondering about two things: 
> > 1) the plan to publish this extension in the main ssn namespace. @ 
> > ted@w3.org, do you have any new input on this?
> > 
> > 2) (longer term) if we start treating SOSA/SSN as an evergreen 
> > standard, we need to figure out how this relates to the OGC 
> > standards process, where something like that doesn't exist (yet).
> > 
> > Linda
> > 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > Verzonden: maandag 9 december 2019 18:57
> > Aan: Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) <Simon.Cox@csiro.au>; Linda van den 
> > Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, 
> > Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>
> > Onderwerp: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > 
> > Hi Simon,
> > 
> > As it was previously a [First Public] Working Draft I requested 
> > permission to publish it as a Working Draft. Some prefer WD to Notes 
> > as having more weight as a specification although that is a matter 
> > of perception. I spoke with Philippe Le Hegaret with his Director 
> > hat on and he is inclined, awaiting email confirmation.
> > 
> > I viewed the support for the updates presented at the face to face 
> > as approval but Linda or Jeremy may wish to formalize with a call 
> > for consensus. That can be done simply as an email to this list with 
> > a deadline, typically five business days as I recall, to voice 
> > objection.
> > 
> > On Sun, 2019-12-08 at 22:00 +0000, Cox, Simon (L&W, Clayton) wrote:
> > > Draft of SSN-EXT is here: 
> > > https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/

> > > I would like this to be issued ASAP as a new PWD, replacing 
> > > https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-ssn-ext/ which was published a year 
> > > ago now.
> > > How do we initiate a vote to allow this? 
> > > 
> > > IMO it is pretty close to done now, so after responding to 
> > > comments in response to PWD, I would then like to look towards 
> > > this being issued by this IG as a W3C Note / OGC Discussion Paper.
> > > 
> > > Simon
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, 7 December, 2019 00:03
> > > To: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>; 
> > > public-sdwig@w3.org; Tandy, Jeremy <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk
> > > >
> > > Subject: Re: Recap Toulouse face to face
> > > 
> > > Minutes are online, corrections welcome. In particular need link 
> > > for Rob's slides and and issue he mentioned on github and a 
> > > project Esa mentioned, look for @@ for context.
> > > 
> > > https://www.w3.org/2019/11/19-sdw-minutes

> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2019-12-06 at 10:09 +0000, Linda van den Brink wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >  
> > > > Here’s a short recap of the face to face meeting we had in 
> > > > Toulouse at the OGC TC.
> > > >  
> > > > SSN extension
> > > > Simon Cox presented the latest Editor’s draft of the SSN 
> > > > Extensions document [1]. The idea is to publish a new WD of this 
> > > > document (which is intended to be a W3C Note / OGC Discussion 
> > > > paper). He has asked the group for review [2] Ted Guild will 
> > > > help navigate this through the process once the group agrees to 
> > > > publish this as a new WD. The new ‘evergreen’ standards process 
> > > > of W3C may be applicable.
> > > >  
> > > > WebVMT
> > > > Rob Smith gave an update on the WebVMT work. It’s still in 
> > > > incubation phase, partly within the Web Platform Incubator 
> > > > Community Group.
> > > > Contact with browser developers has been initiated, revealing 
> > > > that there has been previous work on video geotagging but at the 
> > > > time no consensus was reached. There seems to be some interest 
> > > > in doing this now.
> > > >  
> > > > MapML
> > > > The community around MapML is slowly developing; Peter Rushforth 
> > > > did some community building at TPAC this year and talked to 
> > > > browser developers from Agalia, Beaucoup, Firefox, Chrome. There 
> > > > is also a draft use cases & requirements document [3]. On the 
> > > > OGC side MapML is being worked on in testbed 15. Peter and Ted 
> > > > will look into organizing a W3C workshop on maps in HTML.
> > > >  
> > > > Discussion on charter
> > > > The general feeling about the proposed charter is positive; 
> > > > those present agreed we should move this charter forward. There 
> > > > were some pointers to improve the text. The chairs will transfer 
> > > > the charter text to the right template and further improve the 
> > > > text. When rechartering we may want to think about promoting the 
> > > > group some, in order to remind the W3C and OGC membership what 
> > > > we’re doing.
> > > >  
> > > > Linked building data
> > > > Mathias Bonduel and others from the Linked building data 
> > > > community group joined to present their work. They are working 
> > > > on ontologies for linked building data, collecting use cases, 
> > > > requirements, developing best practices and ontologies, in the 
> > > > future planning to evolve to a W3C WG. They are contacting the 
> > > > SDWIG to see if OGC can help with their use cases related to 
> > > > geometry and topology.
> > > > This
> > > > turns out to be related to the OWL Space / GeoSPARQL 2.0 work, 
> > > > currently discussed in the OGC Geosemantics working group, which 
> > > > they were invited to join.
> > > > Another potentially interesting OGC standard is IndoorGML which 
> > > > describes topology of buildings.
> > > >  
> > > > SDW Finland
> > > > Esa Tiainen presented remotely [4] on low hanging fruit and how 
> > > > to move forward with spatial data on the web.
> > > >  
> > > > OGC technology trends
> > > > George Percivall presented the tech trends [5] OGC has their eye 
> > > > on and asks the group if there are more trends to record within 
> > > > the spatial web data trend group.
> > > >  
> > > > [1]: https://w3c.github.io/sdw/proposals/ssn-extensions/
> > > > [2]: 
> > > > 
> 
> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdwig/2019Nov/0029.html

> > > > [3]: 
> > > > 
> 
> https://maps4html.github.io/HTML-Map-Element-UseCases-Requirements/

> > > > [4]: 
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-presentation-e

> > > > sa-tiainen.pdf
> > > > [5]: 
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
https://github.com/w3c/sdw/blob/gh-pages/meetings/f2f-5-OGC-tech-trend

> > > > s-for-SDWIG.pdf
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > > W3C Automotive Lead
> > > https://www.w3.org/auto

> > > 
> > 
> > --
> > Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
> > W3C Automotive Lead
> > https://www.w3.org/auto

> > 
--
Ted Guild <ted@w3.org>
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