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RE: SDW BP Glossary Issue 195: Spatial Thing

From: Little, Chris <chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2017 16:27:32 +0000
To: Linda van den Brink <l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl>, Clemens Portele <portele@interactive-instruments.de>
CC: "Tandy, Jeremy" <jeremy.tandy@metoffice.gov.uk>, "public-sdw-wg@w3.org" <public-sdw-wg@w3.org>
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Linda, Agreed. Chris

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda van den Brink [mailto:l.vandenbrink@geonovum.nl]
> Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 10:07 AM
> To: Little, Chris; Clemens Portele
> Cc: Tandy, Jeremy; public-sdw-wg@w3.org
> Subject: RE: SDW BP Glossary Issue 195: Spatial Thing
> 
> I think based on Clemens' comment it should rather be "Spatial thing:
> Anything with spatial extent (i.e. size, shape, or position) and is a
> combination of the real-world phenomenon and its abstraction (the
> feature). Examples are: people, places, or bowling balls."
> 
> Will add this to the glossary.
> 
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Little, Chris [mailto:chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk]
> Verzonden: donderdag 4 mei 2017 18:06
> Aan: Clemens Portele
> CC: Linda van den Brink; Tandy, Jeremy; public-sdw-wg@w3.org
> Onderwerp: RE: SDW BP Glossary Issue 195: Spatial Thing
> 
> Clemens,
> 
> Thanks - I was not paying much attention to that discussion.
> 
> So, this capture the intent, albeit slightly verbosely:
> 
> "Spatial thing: Anything with spatial extent (i.e. size, shape, or
> position) and is a combination of the real-world phenomenon and its
> abstraction (the feature). Examples are: people, places, bowling balls,
> as well as abstract regions like polygons or cubes.
> 
> This is different from the ISO 19107:2003 definition of a Spatial
> Object which is a geometry or a topology object
> [[http://www.isotc211.org/TC211_Multi-Lingual_Glossary-2016-06-

> 28_Published.xls|ISO/TC 211 Multi-Lingual Glossary of Terms]]"
> 
> Chris
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Clemens Portele [mailto:portele@interactive-instruments.de]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2017 4:06 PM
> > To: Little, Chris
> > Cc: Linda van den Brink; Tandy, Jeremy; public-sdw-wg@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: SDW BP Glossary Issue 195: Spatial Thing
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > I think your proposal is not what is intended. I do not know who
> added
> > the link to the "spatial object" definition in ISO 19107, but a
> > spatial object in ISO 19107 is not what we call a spatial thing. A
> > spatial object is a geometry or a topology object. A spatial thing is
> > a combination of the real-world phenomenon and its abstraction (the
> > feature).
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Clemens
> >
> > > On 4. May 2017, at 16:23, Little, Chris
> > <chris.little@metoffice.gov.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > 1. Current Entry:
> > > "Spatial thing: Anything with spatial extent, i.e. size, shape, or
> > position. e.g. people, places, bowling balls, as well as abstract
> > regions like cubes. Compare with the ISO definition for Spatial
> Object.
> > [ W3C-BASIC-GEO]"
> > >
> > > 2. The ISO definition is actually for a 'spatial object'.
> > >
> > > URI: http://registry.it.csiro.au/sandbox/iso-tc211/terms/419, or
> > TC211
> > > spreadsheet
> > >
> > > "object used for representing a spatial characteristic of a
> feature"
> > >
> > > Defined in ISO 19107:2003
> > >
> > > 3. W3C-BASIC-GEO does not seem to try anything as rash as defining
> a
> > spatial thing.
> > >
> > > 4. I propose to stick with the ISO definition, and thus probably no
> > change needed to the 95 occurrences of 'Spatial Thing' in the BP.
> > >
> > > Also add an abstract 2D example.
> > >
> > > Glossary would read:
> > >
> > > "Spatial thing: Anything with spatial extent (i.e. size, shape, or
> > position) used for representing a spatial characteristic of a
> feature.
> > Examples are: people, places, bowling balls, as well as abstract
> > regions like polygons or cubes.[[http://www.isotc211.org/TC211_Multi-

> > Lingual_Glossary-2016-06-28_Published.xls|ISO/TC 211 Multi-Lingual
> > Glossary of Terms]]"
> > >
> > > Chris Little
> > > Co-Chair, OGC Meteorology & Oceanography Domain Working Group
> > >
> > > IT Fellow - Operational Infrastructures Met Office  FitzRoy Road
> > > Exeter  Devon  EX1 3PB  United Kingdom
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> > >
> > > I am normally at work Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday each week
> > >
> > >
> > >

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